Summary

  • The Finance Committee takes evidence from Auditor General Caroline Gardner on the fiscal framework

  • This week’s portfolio questions focuses on education and skills

  • Transport Minister Humza Yousaf says "ScotRail has learned lessons" following a series of problems on Scotland's railways

  • The government leads a debate on the future of social security in Scotland

  • SNP MSP Bob Doris leads the mother of all member’s debates entitled ‘Year of the Dad’

  1. The Scottish Conservative amendment is rejectedpublished at 17:33 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    The Scottish Conservative amendment is rejected, with 30 MSPs backing it and 92 against.

    Tory amendmentImage source, Scottish Parliament
  2. Decision timepublished at 17:32 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    Presiding Officer Ken Macintosh takes us to decision time.

  3. Social security minister says she will not be bullied into timescalespublished at 17:31 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    The minister says it is to be regretted the chancellor has not reversed the damaging cuts to ESA.

    Ms Constance says there is a debate to be had about how the government uses the new social security powers.

    Angela Constance

    She says the SNP have a manifesto to deliver.

    The social security minister concludes saying everyone has a stake in the future of social security in Scotland.

    She says the government wants to do as much as it can as fast as it can.

    The minister says she will not be bullied into timescales.

  4. Minister says: 'This has to be a safely managed process'published at 17:29 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    Labour MSP Pauline McNeil says the social security powers could be in place before 2020.

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    Ms Constance says she is not playing fast and lose with the lives of those who rely on benefits

    Ms Constance says the Scottish government has repeatedly said the transfer of these powers is not an event, but a process.

    The social security secretary says: "This has to be a safely managed process."

    Ms Constance says she is "not playing fast and lose with the lives of those who rely on benefits".

  5. 'We need to learn form the mistakes of the UK government'published at 17:25 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    Social Security Secretary Angela Constance
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    Social Security Secretary Angela Constance

    Social Security Secretary Angela Constance says she will not detract from Tory MSP Jeremy Balfour's contribution on his positive personal experience moving from DLA to PIP but it is not all about one person but the overall system

    Ms Constance says this is an opportunity to build a better fairer system. 

    "We need to learn form the mistakes of the UK government," she says. 

  6. Tory MSP welcomes chancellor move on Universal Creditpublished at 17:24 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    MPs look on as Mr Hammond delivers his first big Commons speech as chancellorImage source, HOC
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    MPs look on as Mr Hammond delivers his first big Commons speech as chancellor

    Conservative MSP Annie Wells welcomes changes to Universal Credit which will reduce the "taper rate" from 65% to 63%. 

    This means benefits will be withdrawn at a rate of 63p for every pound of net earnings.

    The UK government said about three million households would benefit.

    Ms Wells says the Scottish government should welcome this.

    She says work will always provide the best way out of poverty.

  7. Tory MSP says says social security is now the shared responsibility of both the UK and Scottish governmentspublished at 17:21 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    Conservative MSP Annie Wells says she recognises Scotland needs to take time with the new competencies coming with devolved social security powers.

    Ms Wells says the Scottish government must do what it can do and stop criticising the UK government.

    She says social security is now the shared responsibility of both the UK and Scottish governments.

    Conservative MSP Annie Wells
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    Conservative MSP Annie Wells

    Ms Wells says once the devolution of powers is complete the Scottish government will have responsibility of a third of social security powers.

    Labour MSP Neil Findlay intervenes to say Annie Wells has supported every cut from the UK government and she should be ashamed of herself.

    Ms Wells says she is focusing on social security and being constructive.

  8. Labour backs employability programmes to be voluntarypublished at 17:18 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    Job search

    Ms McNeil says she is clear she heard Work and Pensions Secretary Damien Green says the devolution of employability programmes would lead to them being voluntary.

    The Labour MSPs says she fully supports the Scottish government intent that employability programmes will be voluntary.

  9. Labour MSP says people feel stressful about claiming welfare and have felt it is anything but a rightpublished at 17:12 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    Labour MSP Pauline McNeilImage source, bbc
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    Labour MSP Pauline McNeil

    Labour MSP Pauline McNeil says: "This may be the most significant thing the parliament has ever done if we get it right."

    Ms McNeill says people feel stressful about claiming welfare and have felt it is anything but a right.

    She says Scotland has the chance to create a new system and the system should be faced on advocacy.

    The Labour MSP says there are literally thousands of unclaimed benefits.

  10. Tory MSP says Scottish government must accept elements of success in the welfare reformspublished at 17:02 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    Conservative MSP Jeremy Balfour receipt of PIP and was a tribunal member who heard PIP and DLA cases.

    Mr Balfour says there must be support for those in need, a personalised system and support for those who can to get into work. 

    Tory MSP Jeremy BalfourImage source, bbc
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    Tory MSP Jeremy Balfour

    He says the Scottish government must accept where there have been elements of success in the welfare reforms.

    The Tory MSP says a new social security system in Scotland will be welcomed but it must address important questions.

    He asks how do we ensure the system encourages people into work and is cost effective?

    Mr Balfour says social security is vital for disabled people in Scotland and the new system must help them gain dignity and respect.

    He says in his assessment for PIP he could not have been treated any better and he got his PIP increased.

    The Tory MSP says there is a large silent number of people who have benefited from PIP.

  11. Tory welfare reforms have caused 'horror stories'published at 16:50 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    SNP MSP George Adam says the Tory welfare reforms have caused "horror stories". 

    He says this is not some "cold academic debate, it is far more important than that."

    Mr Adam says the Scottish Conservatives have a "cheek" to criticize the Scottish government when their Westminster government impose sanctions.

    SNP MSP George Adam
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    SNP MSP George Adam

    The SNP MSP says people have taken their lives over the system. 

    He says his wife has MS and, since 16-years-old she has had to deal with it. 

    Mr Adam says Work and Pensions Secretary Damien Green may think he understands MS because he employs someone with it but at the evidence session he showed he doesn't fully understand it. 

  12. Here's Angela Constance's update to the Social Security Committeepublished at 16:46 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

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  13. Lib Dem MSP says political differences must be put aside to create new social securitypublished at 16:43 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    Lid Dem MSP Alex Cole-Hamiltion says differences must be put aside as 1.4m people are relying on the Scottish Parliament to get social security right.

    Mr Cole Hamilton says the option to pay rent to landlords must be reinstated by the DWP.

    The Lib Dem MSP says the assessment regime is based on suspicion 

    Lid Dem MSP Alex Cole-HamiltionImage source, bbc
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    Lid Dem MSP Alex Cole-Hamiltion

    SNP MSP Clare Haughey says the Lib Dems stood hand in hand to cause the austerity that led to the welfare cuts.

    Mr Cole-Hamilton gestures towards the Tory benches and says we now see how things are when they are unfettered.

    He says he finds it astonishing there is no white paper underpinning the new social security system for Scotland.

  14. There is 'clearly something very wrong with PIP' - Greens MSPpublished at 16:35 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    Scottish Greens MSP Alison Johnstone says these new powers will have an impact on over 1 million Scots. 

    Ms Johnstone says she welcomes the increase in carer's allowance.

    Scottish Greens MSP Alison Johnstone
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    Scottish Greens MSP Alison Johnstone

    The Greens MSP says there have been issues with people moving to PIP. 

    Scottish Conservative MSP Jeremy Balfour intervenes to ask if she would accept that many are moved from DLA to PIP without any problems and therefore their voices are not heard.

    Ms Johnstone says there is "clearly something very wrong with PIP".

    She says all DLA to PIP re-assessments should be suspended because she doesn’t believe it is in the spirit of the devolution settlement. 

  15. Railway tweets from across the chamberpublished at 16:30 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

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  16. Background: Ken Loach takes on welfare system in I, Daniel Blakepublished at 16:24 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    Two years ago he suggested he would be retiring from film-making, but instead 79-year-old director Ken Loach has won the coveted Palme D'Or award for the second time at the Cannes Film Festival.

    I, Daniel Blake stars Dave Johns and Hayley SquiresImage source, JOSS BARRATT
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    I, Daniel Blake stars Dave Johns and Hayley Squires

    The winning film, I Daniel Blake, marks the 13th time that Loach, the director of more than 50 movies, has competed at the event. It's also exactly 10 years since he won the same prize for his 2006 Irish drama The Wind That Shakes The Barley, starring Cillian Murphy.

    Loach uses I, Daniel Blake to expose the welfare system in the UK, and says he wants the film "to break audience's hearts, but also to make them angry".

    Daniel Blake, played by stand-up comedian Dave Johns, is an older man living in Newcastle who, because of a heart attack, can no longer do his job.

  17. Labour MSP says SNP delay on social security 'extends people's misery'published at 16:21 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    Social security sinister challenges Neil FindlayImage source, bbc
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    Social security sinister challenges Neil Findlay

    Labour MSP Neil Findlay says Ruth Maguire's speech was one of the best speeches he has heard on welfare at Holyrood.

    Mr Findlay says all of us at any point in our lives could experience a bereavement, illness or lose their job.

    He says all of us could face the experiences of Daniel Blake and Katy and he says all MSPs should be forced to watch I, Daniel Blake.

    The Labour MSP says the minister was arrogant and blamed everyone else for failing to take control of the social security powers.

    He says this "extends people's misery".

    Social Security Minister Jeanne Freeman says the social security powers will be introduced over just over four years, while the White Paper said four years.

  18. Welfare reform under the Tory government is 'morally bankrupt'published at 16:11 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    SNP MSP Ruth Maguire
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    SNP MSP Ruth Maguire

    SNP MSP Ruth Maguire says the message was clear "people are suffering and we need to do better."

    Ms Maguire says Work and Pensions Secretary Damien Green showed his distaste at certain issues being brought up during committee but it is the reality of Tory welfare reform.

    She says the welfare reform under the Tory government is "morally bankrupt". 

    "You cannot starve people into jobs that don't exist," she says. 

  19. Tory MSP insists sanctions are a part of our benefits systempublished at 16:11 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    Conservative MSP Liam Kerr says when people are able to work they should.

    Mr Kerr says a successful social security system needs sanctions.

    He says the Scottish government should acknowledge the UK government's welfare reform has been a success.

    George Adam and Liam Kerr

    SNP MSP George Adam points out the impact of sanctions and PIP reassessment can affect the mental and physical wellbeing of people and have actually led people to commit suicide.

    Mr Adam asks: "Is that part of the success of the welfare reforms of the Tory government?"

    Mr Kerr says sanctions are an important part of the benefits system and "of course I don't condone anything that George Adam is putting up", but he says sanctions are a part of our benefits system.

  20. Scottish government wanted 100% of the powers - SNP MSPpublished at 16:01 Greenwich Mean Time 23 November 2016

    SNP MSP Sandra White
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    SNP MSP Sandra White

    SNP MSP Sandra White says Work and Pensions Secretary Damien Green did say that there would not be sanctions.

    Scottish Conservative MSP Adam Tomkins intervenes to say Mr Green did say there would be some method of dealing with those abusing the system. 

    Ms White says maybe if Mr Tomikns turned up at meetings and didn't have two jobs he'd have a clearer idea of what was happening at the social security committee. 

    Ms White, says the Scottish government wanted 100% of the powers and the opposition parties did not.