Summary

  • Ferry 'customer' CMAL discusses delays to the delivery of two new vessels

  • A statement on mental health services at NHS Tayside

  • The Scottish Tories lead a debate on the planned free childcare expansion

  • An SNP MSP highlights the Great Daffodil Appeal 2020

  1. Call for a new culture of working across NHS Taysidepublished at 13:37 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    The minister says the report calls for a new culture of working across NHS Tayside and the government accepts the report and its findings in full.

    Ms Haughey says the chief executive of the board has also apologised to those affected.

    She calls for partnership working going forward to implement the recommendations.

  2. Minister apologises for those let down by NHS Tayside mental health servicespublished at 13:34 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    Mental Health Minister Clare HaugheyImage source, bbc
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    Mental Health Minister Clare Haughey

    Clare Haughey says last month Dr David Strang published his inquiry into mental health services in Tayside.

    The mental health minister thanks those who shared their stories.

    She adds: "Far too many people have been let down.

    "I would like to offer my apology on behalf of the Scottish government for what they endured."

  3. Background: Call for 'radical' approach to restore trust in Tayside mental health servicespublished at 13:32 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    Tayside mental health staff have been left "demoralised" by a "culture of fear and blame", a report has found.

    The independent inquiry into mental health services in the region took evidence from more than 1,500 people.

    It said there was a danger that NHS Tayside could be perceived to be "more interested in protecting its reputation than looking after the interests of its patients".

    NHS Tayside said it welcomed the report which it "knew would be challenging".

    Dundee's Carseview Centre

    The report, which made more than 50 recommendations, external, said: "A breakdown in trust and a loss of respect has undoubtedly led to poor service, treatment, patient care and outcomes.

    "The breakdown in trust and respect is caused by the lack of effective, engaged strategic leadership and planning."

    It added that a "radical" approach to restoring trust was urgently needed.

    The investigation was initially ordered into Dundee's Carseview Centre but was expanded following a campaign by families of people who took their own lives.

    An interim report last year, external highlighted concerns over illegal drugs in wards and patient restraints, saying some patients were frightened of staff members.

    Read more here.

  4. Ministerial Statement: Independent Inquiry into Mental Health Services in Taysidepublished at 13:29 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    David Ramsay killed himself at the age of 50 in 2016 after twice being turned away from the Carseview unit in Dundee
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    David Ramsay killed himself at the age of 50 in 2016 after twice being turned away from the Carseview unit in Dundee

    Mental Health Minister Clare Haughey will now deliver a statement on the independent inquiry into mental health services in Tayside.

  5. Coming up... NHS Tayside mental health inquiry statementpublished at 12:39 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    At 1.30pm there will be a statement on the independent inquiry into mental health services at NHS Tayside, before environment and rural economy question time.

    Then the Scottish Tories lead a debate on childcare.

    SNP MSP Linda Fabiani leads the evening member's business on Marie Curie’s Great Daffodil Appeal.

  6. CMAL not responsible for ferry issues insists CEOpublished at 12:37 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    Does CMAL have any blame in this at all, asks the convener.

    "No," replies Mr Hobbs.

    The convener moves the session into private.

  7. 'Our processes are robust'published at 12:35 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    Jim Anderson from CMAL insists: "Our processes are robust."

    In terms of Ferguson shipyard he says the quality of the workforce is fantastic they just need the right leadership.

  8. Background: What's gone wrong with CalMac's new ferries?published at 12:34 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    The launch of the Glen Sannox, which is still not completedImage source, PA Media

    Three years late and £100m over budget. The deal to build two new CalMac ferries for Arran and the Hebrides has run into serious trouble.

    Back in 2015, the £97m order was seen as a lifeline for Ferguson shipyard in Port Glasgow - the last commercial yard on the Clyde which had been rescued by industrialist Jim McColl the previous year.

    That contract ended up dragging the yard back into administration. The yard has been nationalised and the final cost of building the ferries will be at least double the original estimate.

    So what's gone wrong? You'll get very different answers to that question, depending on who you're talking to.

    Read more.

  9. CMAL chose not to terminate contract due to timescalespublished at 12:33 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    Could the contract have been terminated at any point but CMAL chose not to, asks SNP MSP Stewart Stevenson.

    Mr Hobbs confirms CMAL could have terminated the contract when the ships were not delivered on time, but it took the view that in terms of timescale for starting over again, it was better to continue with Ferguson.

  10. Background: Jim McColl: CalMac ferries 'should be scrapped'published at 12:29 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    Jim McColl

    Two CalMac ferries at the centre of a political storm over cost and delays should be scrapped and work started again, it has been claimed.

    Industrialist Jim McColl has spoken out against the Scottish government's plan to spend at least £110m on the part-finished ferries.

    He was in charge of the shipyard where the ferries were being built before it collapsed and was nationalised.

    Management of the yard has been sharply criticised in a new government report, external.

    Mr McColl told BBC Scotland Caledonian Maritime Assets Limited, which required numerous design changes, was the key reason why the budget and timetable went out of control.

    Read more.

  11. 'We have been let down very badly'published at 12:27 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    Glen SannoxImage source, Mark F Gibson

    Green MSP John Finnie says the compensation claim has been described as a work of fiction, externaland asks: "Is Mr McColl the author of that fiction?"

    Kevin Hobbs says the full claim for £66m was delivered on 20 December 2018 and that was created by a professional company.

    That company was paid for by Ferguson Marine so you can make your own judgement, he adds.

    Mr Hobbs says CMAL is now working very closely with partners to ensure these ships are delivered.

    We have been let down very badly and everybody in the chain has been let down badly, he adds.

  12. 'Our reaction was absolute horror'published at 12:22 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    SNP MSP Emma Harper says the evidence about the relationship between CMAL and Ferguson seems to be a "he said, she said".

    CMAL chief executive Kevin Hobbs says there were regular meetings, but the relationship became fractious around Easter 2017 when "we were dragged into the war room" and read the "riot act".

    The owner of the business told them they would deliver the ferries by May 2018 and July 2018, adds Mr Hobbs.

    Mr Hobbs said he replied there "was no chance" and "we were effectively dismissed, marched out of the office".

    Then on 7 July Ferguson said CMAL owed them £17.535950m.

    "Our reaction was absolute horror, as you can imagine.

    "All of a sudden it was a major, major problem."

    He says at that point it was felt they were in a pre-litigation phase.

    Mr says CMAL almost pleaded with the shipyard to take them to court up until the point of administration and they never did.

    "That whole claim was a work of fiction."

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  14. Background: Ferries are a 'long way off completion'published at 12:08 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    Glen SannoxImage source, PA Media

    Two delayed CalMac ferries are "significantly less than half built", it has been revealed.

    The vessels being built at Ferguson shipyard are £100m over budget and likely to be three years overdue.

    A Holyrood inquiry into the delay was told warnings the Inverclyde yard was not set up to build two ferries side-by-side were ignored.

    Work got under way before designs were finalised and workforce morale was badly hit by the delay, MSPs heard.

    Read more.

  15. Ferguson 'not being truthful' about design changespublished at 12:00 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    Kevin Hobbs

    Turning to Ferguson's assertion that CMAL kept changing the designs, Kevin Hobbs says they are "not being truthful".

    He says 111 changes were look at. Of these, 30 were never progressed after discussion, while 46 changes were prompted by Ferguson and 35 prompted by CMAL.

    We had to pay £1.55m for the changes we asked for, he adds.

    What Ferguson is describing when they talk about changes are "their own mistakes."

  16. CMAL could not halt constructionpublished at 11:59 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    SNP MSP Maureen Watt asks: "Did you agree to Ferguson Marine starting constructions of the vessels before the basic and detailed designs were substantially complete?"

    No, replies Mr Hobbs.

    Ms Watt then asks: "Did the contract allow you to take any action to halt or slow construction until designs were signed off?"

    No, replies Mr Hobbs.

  17. Scottish ministers did not put any pressure on CMAL to award ferry contractpublished at 11:52 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    SNP MSP Richard Lyle
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    SNP MSP Richard Lyle

    SNP MSP Richard Lyle asks if Scottish ministers, the Scottish government or Transport Scotland put any pressure on CMAL to accept the bid from Ferguson.

    "No," replies Mr Hobbs.

  18. 'The shipyard was hopelessly inefficient'published at 11:50 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    After a spot of quick maths, SNP MSP Stewart Stevenson asks why it will cost so much more to complete the vessels.

    "Because the shipyard was hopelessly inefficient," comes the reply. Mr Hobbs agrees to write to the committee with further details.

    Labour MSP Colin Smyth asks about a payment of £30m signed off by former government adviser Luke van Beek for work that has not been delivered.

    Kevin Hobbs says CMAL met with Mr van Beek twice and had no sight of anything he was doing in the yard.

    He says CMAL flagged work had not been completed at a meeting with Mr van Beek and government officials.

    What was the response, asks Mr Smyth.

    "I think they looked pretty shocked," replies Mr Hobbs.

  19. CMAL agree overall cost of ferries will be about £250mpublished at 11:44 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    CMAL chief executive Kevin Hobbs
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    CMAL chief executive Kevin Hobbs

    Mr Mountain says for the ferries to be completed it will require another £110m, you've paid of £82m and the government's paid a loan of £45m

    The committee convener says for a £98m contract at the moment it is about £250m, all things being equal.

    "The maths works out perfectly," agrees Mr Hobbs.

    Contractually CMAL will pay £97m for the vessels, the chief executive points out, adding somebody will have to pay for it but it won't be CMAL.

    "No, the Scottish taxpayers are," says Mr Mountain.

  20. 78% of payment made but ship is not 78% built suggests convenerpublished at 11:35 Greenwich Mean Time 11 March 2020

    Convener Edward Mountain

    Convener Edward Mountain asks how many payments have been made.

    Kevin Hobbs says 14 of the 15 original payments for Glen Sannox (hull 801) have been made, while there a five payments outstanding for hull 802. This equates to 90% and 78% of payments, respectively.

    Mr Mountain says there is not this level of work on the slipway, adding 802 is nowhere near 78% complete nor was there 78% of material in the store.

    We have "absolutely not" received 78% of the value, but he says all the parts are on site and accounted for, replies Mr Hobbs.