Summary

  • North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has arrived via rail in Russia where he is due to meet President Vladimir Putin

  • Moscow wants to buy North Korean ammunitions for the war in Ukraine, says the US

  • North Korea meanwhile wants food aid and possibly technology to help its banned nuclear and missiles programme, analysts say

  • Putin is in Vladivostok in Russia's far east, which is around 200km (125 miles) from the North Korean border

  • But it's not clear exactly where they will meet - Kim's train is reportedly heading north, away from Vladivostok

  • One possible meeting point is Vostochny space centre in Russia's far east

  • This is Kim's first trip abroad in four years - he last met Putin face to face in 2019

  1. We're pausing our coveragepublished at 15:05 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    Gem O'Reilly
    Live reporter

    Kim Jong Un disembarking trainImage source, Reuters
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    Earlier today Kim Jong Un disembarked his train in Russia and was greeted in the Primorsky region

    As Kim Jong Un's train makes its way across eastern Russia, we're pausing this page.

    But we will be back as soon as we know he's about to meet Putin and will bring you the latest updates here.

    This page was written in London by me, Ali Abbas Ahmadi and Jacqueline Howard with Rob Corp and Paul Gribben.

  2. What have we learnt today?published at 15:02 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    We've been following North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's first trip abroad in four years to Russia - where he is due to meet President Vladimir Putin where it is thought the two men will discuss a potential arms deal.

    As far as we know Kim is still travelling on his personal, heavily armoured, train to wherever the leaders are going to meet - in Russia's far east. So what have we learned today?

    • The US says Moscow wants to buy North Korean ammunitions for the war in Ukraine
    • For its part, North Korea is likely to be keen on food aid and some kind of technology transfer
    • Putin is in Russia's far east for an economic forum, and while it was thought he'd meet Kim in Vladivostok, that's been thrown into doubt
    • Kim's train has reportedly continued north and away from the port city
    • It's been reported in Japan and South Korea that the two could meet at Russia's Vostochny space centre
    • If the two countries strike a deal to supply each other with weapons, Putin will have violated UN sanctions
  3. Is Russia about to lose Armenia as an ally?published at 14:41 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    While it was once considered Russia's most important strategic ally in the South Caucasus region, the former Soviet republic of Armenia appears to be distancing itself from Moscow's influence.

    One source of tension is believed to be Russia's heavy focus on the war in Ukraine - with Armenia finding it hard to get the weapons it needs amid continuing tensions with neighbouring Azerbaijan.

    Russia is also not happy that Armenia is planning to sign up to the International Criminal Court (ICC) in a bid to bring war crimes charges against Azerbaijan.

    The ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Vladimir Putin and membership for Azerbaijan means he wouldn't be able to visit.

    If more of Russia's long-standing allies continue to distance themselves, Putin will need to ensure this summit with Kim Jong Un is a success as he's running dangerously low on strategically useful friends.

    Russia's President Vladimir Putin meets with Armenia's Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev on the sidelines of the Eurasian Economic Union summit in Moscow on 25 May 2023Image source, Reuters
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    Putin met the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan at a summit in Moscow in May

  4. UN can do little to stop Russia violating agreementpublished at 14:19 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    If Russia and North Korea strike a deal to supply the former with weapons, President Putin will have violated the sanctions imposed on Pyongyang by the UN Security Council – sanctions it is signatory to.

    It's not the first time Russia has violated UN principles in the past couple of years despite being a core member of the organisation.

    In fact, Russia is one of just five permanent members of the UN (alongside the US, UK, China and France), which means it cannot be removed from its seat at the table.

    That means that, outside of even more sanctions from other countries, there is little in the way of consequences for President Putin.

    The UN flagImage source, EPA
  5. Kim Jong Un's plane 'too old to use' - ex-North Korean officialpublished at 14:05 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    Kim Jong Un waves from a trainImage source, Reuters

    Travelling by air to Russia is not an option for Kim Jong Un because his plane is not up to the job, says a former North Korean official.

    "His plane is old, hasn't been properly maintained, and if there's an accident, it would be all over in the air, so there would be no time to recover," Ko Young Hwan, a former diplomat who defected to South Korea in 1991 told Reuters.

    "So, from a security and equipment perspective, I think it's inadequate," he said.

    Travelling by car is not a good choice either, Ko said. Aside from the sheer distance (it's a 22-hour drive from the border to the Vostochny Cosmodrome, if indeed a meeting takes place there), the roads in North Korea are underdeveloped.

    "Most of the roads in North Korea are not in good condition, with many dirt roads, and when it rains, the roads become unusable," he said.

  6. Who we think is on Kim Jong Un's trainpublished at 13:49 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    Kim Jong Un shakes hands with a member of the military on a red carpet. Various other suited and uniformed men accompany himImage source, Reuters

    No official guest list has been circulated, but we've seen some familiar faces in pictures of Kim Jong Un and his delegation boarding the train bound for Russia.

    A number of North Korea's key political, economic and defence figures were photographed aboard the train (we assume they didn't get off before it left) including:

    • Choe Son Hui, the foreign minister, who is best known to the West for organising a summit with Donald Trump
    • Ri Pyong Chol, the highest-ranking military figure who oversees the defence industry including nuclear and missile programmes
    • Pak Thae Song, chairman of a space and technology committee
    • Jo Chun Ryong, director of the munitions industry department

    Kim Yo Jong, Kim Jong Un's sister, was seen standing beside the train, although we don't know if she boarded, and we think Defence Minister Kang Sun Nam could be on board too, although we can't confidently identify him in photos.

  7. Putin says Trump criminal cases are "persecution"published at 13:33 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    Russia's President Vladimir Putin and US President Donald Trump attend a meeting on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Osaka, Japan in 2019Image source, Reuters

    Vladimir Putin has described the legal cases against Donald Trump as "politically motivated persecution".

    The former US president is facing dozens of criminal charges and will go on trial several times in the next 18 months.

    "Everything that's happening with Trump is politically motivated persecution of one's political rival, that's what it is. And it's being done before the eyes of the US public and the whole world. They've simply exposed their internal problems," he told attendees at an economic forum in Vladivostok.

    Putin continued: "In this sense, if they are trying to fight us in some way, it's good, because it shows who is fighting us. It shows, as they said back in Soviet times, 'the bestial face of American imperialism, the bestial grin'."

  8. Food supplies likely to be high on agenda in talkspublished at 13:19 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    Men work in a rice field in Pyongyang suburbs, North Korea, 17 April 2016.Image source, EPA
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    Men work in a rice field in Pyongyang suburbs

    One topic likely to be high on Kim Jong Un's agenda in Russia is the supply of food.

    Pyongyang has heavily invested in military technology, but less so on agricultural practices - meaning its food stocks remain vulnerable.

    A UN food assessment, external in 2019 estimated that more than 10 million North Koreans were suffering from “severe food shortages” after the worst harvest in a decade.

    Two years later, a BBC report revealed that a food shortage loomed again over the winter, leaving vulnerable locals to starve.

  9. France says visit shows Russia's international 'isolation'published at 12:57 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    Anne-Claire Legendre, spokeswoman for the French foreign ministry, said Kim Jong Un's visit to Russia shows Moscow's international isolation following its invasion of Ukraine.

    "Russia is isolated to the point of being forced to turn to North Korea," Ms Legendre told reporters on Tuesday.

    "This is a very strong sign of its international isolation," she added.

  10. What missiles does North Korea have?published at 12:43 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    A photo showing the lengths each missile can reach
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    An intercontinental ballistic missile from North Korea is capable of reaching the US mainland, according to the Japanese government

    As Kim Jong Un will be discussing Russia's need for more weapons with President Putin the BBC looked into what missiles North Korea currently has and how they are being tested.

    North Korea has tested ballistic, cruise and hypersonic missiles in recent years.

    These can fly at several times the speed of sound and at low altitude to escape radar detection.

    In April, the country tested what it called its "most powerful" missile - the Hwasong-18.

    Its true range is estimated to be in excess of 15,000km, according to the US-based CSIS Missile Defense Project.

    Last July a second test saw a Hwasong-18 reach a claimed altitude of over 6,600km, with a flight time of 74 minutes.

    In November 2022 an intercontinental ballistic missile was tested and could have reached the US mainland, according to the Japanese government.

    North Korea tested a record number of missiles in 2022, including ones capable of reaching US territory.

  11. Why would a meeting at a space launch centre be significant?published at 12:31 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    Two people watch a space launch on TV in North KoreaImage source, Getty Images

    A meeting between Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin at the Vostochny Cosmodrome would be symbolic given the North Korean leader’s interest in launching a satellite into space, says Gabriela Bernal, a researcher at the University of North Korean Studies in South Korea.

    It's all speculative, she says, but there are some potential benefits in a cosmodrome meeting for the North Korean leader.

    Talks there could raise the chances of North Korea receiving technical assistance from Russia for its space programme, she says, adding that Kim Jong Un has had two failed satellite launches recently.

    If the meeting does indeed take place in Vostochny, it may also be better for security reasons, Bernal says, as most expected the two leaders to meet in Vladivostok as they did in the past. A change of location to a lesser known area would make sense in terms of security for Kim, she says.

  12. In pictures: The Vostochny cosmodromepublished at 12:16 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    The Vostochny cosmodrome, located in Russia's far east near the border with China, has been suggested as the possible meeting place for President Putin and Kim Jong Un.

    It is the country's first commercial space centre and is one of Vladimir Putin's pet projects. Its first launch was in 2016.

    A rocket lifting off from a launch pad at the cosmodrome in 2017Image source, Kirill Kudryavtsev via Getty Images
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    A Soyuz rocket carrying a Russian weather satellite lifts off from the Vostochny cosmodrome in November 2017

    Russian President Vladimir Putin and Roscosmos employees pose for a picture at the Vostochny cosmodrome in front of a rocket in April 2022Image source, Getty Images
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    Russian President Vladimir Putin (centre) and employees of the state space agency Roscosmos pose for a picture at the Vostochny cosmodrome in April 2022

    A rocket stands on its launch pad in the Vostochny space centreImage source, Roscosmos State Space Corporation
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    A rocket stands on its launch pad in the Vostochny space centre in 2021

    A group of scientists and technicians in blue working on a craft, covered in golden foil, that was meant to land on the moonImage source, Reuters
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    Scientists prepare Russia's lunar lander - which ultimately crashed on the Moon - at the space centre in July this year

  13. BBC Verify

    Why haven’t satellites spotted Kim’s train?published at 11:56 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    The BBC Verify team has been trying to track the train by monitoring satellite images along the anticpated route.

    Based on Kim’s previous visits to Russia, the train was expected to change its wheels at the North Korean border station of Tumangang. Wider wheels are needed to work on Russia’s tracks.

    We had hoped a satellite image would have captured this moment. BBC Verify often uses satellite images provided by Planet Labs. Their satellites normally pass the border crossing either in the early morning or late afternoon local time.

    However, no satellite image was taken over Tumangang or Khasan (which is just over the border) during the time we anticipated Kim's train would be in the area.

    Cloud cover has also blocked our view of the train further north along its expected route into Russia.

    Satellite images are taken from space and if the weather is cloudy the ground can be completely obscured.

  14. Media reports suggest cosmodrome venue for Kim-Putin meetpublished at 11:42 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    Satellite surveillance has so far not picked up where Kim Jong Un is heading as his train trundles through Russia's far east, so foreign media are turning to a more traditional method - inside sources.

    Japan's Kyodo News, external, quoting "sources close to Russian authorities", reports the train is heading north towards Russia's Amur region, where the Vostochny Cosmodrome is.

    South Korea's KBS World, external also reported "observers" see the cosmodrome as a potential venue due to Kim's train having travelled north of Vladivostok - which was thought to be his original destination.

    The New York Times, external, in a piece last week previewing the talks, also attributed to an unnamed source the idea that Vostochny Cosmodrome would be a stop on Kim Jong Un's trip.

    Map showing locations in Russia's far east including Vladivostok and VostochnyImage source, .
  15. Kim the only Asian leader showing up for Putin's forumpublished at 11:27 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    Frances Mao
    Live reporter in Singapore

    Putin giving an address at the Eastern Economic Forum on 12/9Image source, EPA

    We thought Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin were going to meet in Vladivostok because of the Eastern Economic Forum - the Russian leader's signature platform to engage with Asian economies.

    But his "Look East" policy has been damaged by the invasion of Ukraine. The forum was always dominated by China but Japan and South Korea used to attend too.

    Now Russia has lost both as economic partners because of the war.

    Beijing also hasn't sent a senior representative this time when previously President Xi Jinping had addressed the forum.

    "This year shows Russia's isolation - apart from Kim - there are no other heads of state from Asia speaking at the Forum," says Asia Society's Philipp Ivanov, an expert on China-Russia relations.

    "It is a reminder that while the countries of the Global South may not condemn Russia’s war in Ukraine, only a few including China are risking putting their economic eggs in Russia’s high-risk basket."

  16. What is the rocket launch site Putin will visit?published at 11:13 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

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    Russia first rocket launch from the Vostochny cosmodrome

    The Vostochny space centre - where Kim Jong Un is reportedly headed and which President Putin plans to visit - is Russia's first purpose-built civilian site for space launches.

    Located in Russia's far east well away from big cities, the site used to be a Soviet-era missile base called Svobodny. The first launch from the new-look centre took place in 2016, and there have been several more since.

    Vostochny is regarded as one of President Putin's pet projects - in September 2019, he called it the "country's most important construction project of national significance."

    The development has been tainted by massive theft and corruption, however, and the project lost a reported £133m ($172m). In 2019, Russian authorities reported that 58 officials were found guilty of fraud and abuse of office.

    Read our article about Vostochny here.

  17. Why does Kim Jong Un travel in an armoured train?published at 10:57 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    Jean Mackenzie
    Seoul correspondent

    North Korean leader Kim Jong Un waves from a private train as he departs Pyongyang, North Korea, to visit Russia, September 10, 2023Image source, Reuters

    Trains do not tend to be the preferred mode of travel for world leaders when making international trips, but the Kims - more often than not - have chosen to take the slow and winding route on board their famous VIP train.

    Because each carriage is heavily armoured, the train is exceptionally heavy and therefore slow.

    Kim Jong Un’s previous trip to Vladivostok took 20 hours. The journey to Vietnam in 2019 to meet Donald Trump took more than 60.

    Kim’s father Kim Jong-il was reportedly afraid of flying and did not trust the country’s fleet of aging Soviet-era aircraft.

    The Kim family are also paranoid about their security and trips abroad are seen as fraught with danger. Aeroplanes can be shot out of the sky, while trains are harder to track.

    A 2009 local media report suggested that on a previous trip, a security train travelled ahead checking for threats and making sure the track was clear.

  18. Putin says Soviet invasions of eastern Europe 'a mistake'published at 10:34 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    While we've been trying to work out Kim Jong Un's whereabouts, Vladimir Putin has been addressing the annual Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok. Here's what he has been saying:

    • The Soviet invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia were both "wrong" and a "mistake"
    • Countries should not do anything in foreign policy which "harms the interests of other peoples"
    • Washington has "no friends, only interests" and the US is making the same mistakes as the Soviet Union

    The Soviet Union invaded Hungary in 1956, with at least 2,600 Hungarians killed in the fighting.

    Around 137 Czechs and Slovaks died after the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968.

    In 2022, Putin sent tens of thousands of Russian troops into Ukraine, triggering the biggest land war in Europe since World War Two.

  19. Kim took an unexpected pathpublished at 10:23 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    Frances Mao
    Live reporter in Singapore

    We've spent the whole day in Asia monitoring Kim's train - my UK colleagues and BBC Verify have now taken over the watch.

    He arrived at the Russian border this morning as per predictions. But then he diverged - pulling away from Vladivostok on the coast to head north.

    There have been reports he might visit a space centre: the Vostochny Cosmodrome is Russia's most advanced and Pyongyang is struggling to launch its satellites.

    But the idea gathered steam once he passed Ussurisyk - and about an hour later Putin confirmed that he would also visit the site.

    A meeting to seal an arms deal at a space launch site now seems on the cards. The train is still moving - stay on this page for the latest developments.

    Thanks to Derek Cai, Kelly Ng and Nicholas Yong who worked on this page with me in Singapore.

  20. Does Russia's war hinge on North Korea's support?published at 09:59 British Summer Time 12 September 2023

    Steve Rosenberg
    BBC Russia editor

    An arms deal between Moscow and Pyongyang would represent quite a shift change.

    Until recently Russia had been full-square behind UN Security Council sanctions against North Korea over its nuclear weapons programme.

    Among other things, those sanctions ban the trade of weapons with North Korea.

    “Never mind. A signature can be revoked," Russian tabloid Moskovsky Komsomolets said last week.

    More than a year and a half into a war that has gone badly wrong for Russia, Moscow may well need to replenish its munitions stocks. It may well see a deal with Pyongyang as a way of helping to achieve that.

    But that doesn’t mean that, without North Korea’s help, Russia’s war machine is about to grind to a halt.

    “Putin is not desperate,” believes former foreign minister Andrei Kozyrev. “He can sustain this for a very long time and he can adapt."