Summary

  • The Cameron amendment was unsuccessful

  • A call to compare selective and non-selective exam results was rejected

  • Debate on the proposals is due continue next week

  1. The Cameron amendment: What does it suggest?published at 09:34 British Summer Time 16 July 2021

    Deputies Andy Cameron and Lindsay de Sausmarez want to replace the committee's proposals with their own plan.

    It is not dissimilar, but instead of a new building for a sixth form centre the current centre at Les Varendes will continue to be used for 16-18 education.

    So Le Murier, Les Voies and St Anne’s in Alderney would sit alongside three 11-16 schools at Les Beaucamps, St Sampson’s and Les Varendes and a sixth form centre colocated at Les Varendes.

    Les Ozouets would be developed solely for The Guernsey Institute.

    Sixth Form Centre and Grammar School

    They have said the proposal would be "maximising the use of the existing estate and optimising equitable educational outcomes" and would have lower capital and ongoing revenue costs.

    The savings in costs should be reinvested in improving the educational offer and student experience - so would not reduce the £54m cost of the project.

    Their proposals also include further consultation with staff on how they can be delivered and that the reorganisation should not negatively impact those students at Le Murier, Les Voies and St Anne’s.

    Mr Cameron is a member of the Committee for Education, Sport and Culture, but has rejected the committee's preferred proposal and his alternative has been dubbed the Cameron amendment.

  2. Deputies urged to 'future-proof' educationpublished at 09:33 British Summer Time 16 July 2021

    Ahead of the resumption of debate the Institute of Directors said it was "vital" for States members to conclude debate on secondary education "as soon as possible".

    The group also said politicians needed to consider how the proposals can "enhance and future-proof educational outcomes and improve the skills base of the island".

    Quote Message

    Upskilling Guernsey’s workforce is critical to increasing productivity, maintaining the Bailiwick’s competitiveness and supporting a flourishing economy and community."

    Institute of Directors

    In its pre-election members' survey, education was ranked the third most important priority for the new assembly.

    In another survey, held earlier this year, when asked about recruiting staff with specialist skills 69% of respondents said it had "proven most challenging".

  3. Education reform debate adjournspublished at 17:56 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    The States has adjourned debate over education reform until 09:30 on Friday.

    There are four remaining amendments to be considered, as well as the original proposals from the Committee for Education, Sport and Culture.

  4. Amendment calling for further review failspublished at 17:50 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    A call for a further review of secondary education to wait until the exam results of the first non-selective cohort can be compared has been rejected.

    The vote was 12 for and 27 against the proposal.

  5. Deputy Lyndon Trott questions lack of reviewpublished at 17:43 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    Quote Message

    I voted for pause and review, that's what I expected to see and I haven't seen it. I knew when I didn't we would have many of the problems we have today."

    Deputy Lyndon Trott

    Pause and review was the successful requete in March 2020 that stopped work on the one school two sites model put forward by the then education committee.

  6. Deputy Aldwell: 'A kick it down the road amendment'published at 16:25 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    Deputy Susan Aldwell has described Deputy Leadbeater's proposal for a new review as a "let's a kick it down the road amendment".

    The education committee member said Guernsey has been in a dilemma since 2001 over education reorganisation plans, with children "in limbo".

    She said: "Students have been left in this situation for far too long."

    Deputy Aldwell argued a single year "snapshot" of exam results would provide a "flawed analysis".

    "The benefits of comprehensive education system are far wider than exam results," she added.

  7. Analysis: Education debate opening statementpublished at 16:18 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    John Fernandez
    BBC Guernsey political reporter

    "Let’s get on with it."

    The message from Education President Andrea Dudley-Owen was patently clear this afternoon as she opened debate on the future of secondary education.

    She doesn’t know for certain that it will deliver savings; she certainly doesn’t think teachers will coalesce around any plan and widespread opposition from teachers is certainly no reason not to plough ahead.

    Education know they have the numbers. The plan may be scant on detail but the prize at the end of this week is a victory over the last States and a semblance of progress, and Deputy Dudley-Owen knows her scheme can deliver.

  8. Call to delay until non-selective exam results comparedpublished at 15:58 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    Deputies have begun debate on an amendment seeking for a further review of education reform.

    The proposal would postpone any changes until an assessment of the exam results from the first non-selective cohort of children.

    Selection in Guernsey ended in 2019, with the first group of children entering secondary school without taking the 11-plus exam.

    The review would be put to the States within six months of the results for this cohort.

    It has been put forward by Deputy Marc Leadbeater and seconded by Deputy David De Lisle.

    Mr Leadbeater said: "This does not kick the can down the road.

    "It provides us with a clear timeline for how we can conduct a comprehensive review."

  9. 'Empower' senior leaders over curriculum and classespublished at 15:50 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    Guernsey's education committee intends to "empower" schools over how they educate children, Deputy Andrea Dudley-Owen has said.

    "It has been agreed in successive debates that it is up to school leaders to decide how to arrange their curriculum and classes."

  10. Deputy Dudley-Owen: Abandoned review 'unusable'published at 15:42 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    Deputy Andrea Dudley-Owen has described a review begun by her committee's predecessors as "unusable".

    In March 2020, the now education president spearheaded the successful "pause and review" campaign, which abandoned the previously agreed two-school model for education reform.

    This effort was later abandoned by her committee, following a vote in the States earlier this year.

    "Why would we continue with a review which not conducted in a way which would enable us to get the most objective view of the preferred options on offer," Mrs Dudley-Owen added.

  11. Education 'will not ignore' teachers viewspublished at 15:31 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    Deputy Andrea Dudley-Owen said her committee would not be "so conceited to ignore" a recent survey of secondary teachers, which showed many opposed the proposals.

    In the survey, 87% opposed the plans - with 73% of secondary teachers responding.

    However, the education president argued this was not a "reason to not go forwards".

    "It has been a difficult 18 months for staff leading to, in some cases, to exhaustion and demoralisation.

    "We are truly proud of the work they have done to keep our children educated."

    She pointed to the fact that staff and teaching unions had "stated clearly" politicians were responsible for setting education policy.

    Quote Message

    We are grateful to them for their forthright honesty in raising their concerns, which we will continue to address."

    Deputy Andrea Dudley-Owen, President, Committee for Education, Sport and Culture

  12. Les Ozouets to 'serve whole community'published at 15:18 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    Deputy Andrea Dudley-Owen said a dedicated post-16 campus would provide a "stimulating learning environment" for young people.

    Her committee is proposing a sixth form centre in a new building at the Les Ozouets campus - previously the site of St Peter Port School - which would also be the home of the Guernsey Institute.

    She added it would also "meet upskilling needs and training needs" for older people, thereby supporting the whole community.

    "We are looking to rethink, while ensuring we have a system with inbuilt sustainability, security and certainty for the future," the education president argued.

  13. What amendments have been proposed?published at 15:12 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    Deputies have put forward five amendments to ESC's proposals:

    • Retaining the existing sixth form centre at Les Varendes
    • Keeping and refurbishing La Mare de Caretet and using Les Varendes as an exclusive sixth form centre
    • Postpone reform in favour of a further review of the impact of the 2019 move away from selective education
    • A 11-18 education system, with three schools and an integrated sixth form centre
    • A procedural motion to vote on all proposals and amendments in order, rather than separately
  14. Deputy Dudley-Owen: We have engaged wellpublished at 15:09 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    Quote Message

    We have taken great care and time ensuring that the way we engaged was meaningful."

    Deputy Andrea Dudley-Owen, President of Education, Sport and Culture

    During her opening speech Mrs Dudley Owen said: "We have engaged well and we have proved it time and time again.

    "We were purposeful in delaying our policy letter so that we could undertake further engagement with staff.

    "This did influence the content we published, we've continued to engage and we've continued to feedback."

    She said all this work can be found on the government website, external.

    "We have done the work we should have in the way we should have," the committee president added.

  15. Secondary education: The case for changepublished at 14:53 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    The Committee for Education, Sport and Culture has laid out its arguments for the need for change in its policy letter.

    • Young people are being educated in a legacy system which is no longer fit for purpose
    • There is inbuilt inequity in the current model, some of the buildings and facilities in the estate are in poor condition and are not representative of a modern system of education
    • Education staff are exhausted by the turbulence and uncertainty caused by years of indecision and changes in strategic direction
    • Recent events in the form of the pandemic and subsequent global disruption have accelerated the need for the bailiwick to secure its economic prosperity
    • Stability in a modern and forward-thinking education system is key

    The previous system, which involved selection at 11, stopped in 2019 and was replaced by non-selective admission to the island's four States secondary schools.

  16. Education president: 'We cannot delay any more'published at 14:49 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    Deputy Andrea Dudley Owen has opened debate on her committee's plans .

    She argued the States "cannot delay any more" over reforming secondary education in Guernsey.

    Mrs Dudley-Owen said: "We must acknowledge that our present system requires some changes."

  17. Debate begins on secondary education reformpublished at 14:42 British Summer Time 15 July 2021

    Deputies have begun to debate plans for reforming Guernsey's secondary education system.

    The Committee for Education, Sport and Culture's proposals are based around a three-school model.

    This would mean three 11-16 schools at Les Varendes, St Sampson's and Les Beaucamps, with the closure of La Mare de Carteret school.

    Post-16 education would be done at a new dedicated campus built Les Ozouets.

    It is expected to cost £54m, with a £43.5m budget for capital costs.

    Listen live to debate on 1116AM or online.