Talking gun control at a shooting rangepublished at 04:29
The BBC's Philippa Thomas was on her way to a shooting range in Arizona when news emerged of the Orlando attack. People there told her banning guns was not the solution to the seemingly endless mass shootings in the US.
Gun enthusiast Peter Ruh told her that if any of their gun club had been in the nightclub "this would not have happened".
His wife, Carol, says President Barack Obama is trying to tear guns away from "right-thinking Americans".
"I would resist that to my dying breath."