Tory leadership rivals trade blows over tax and spending

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WATCH: The first TV debate in 90 seconds

Tory leadership frontrunners have clashed over how best to fund public services and control inflation in the contest's first TV debate.

Foreign Secretary Liz Truss attacked tax rises introduced under ex-chancellor Rishi Sunak as "wrong" and pledged to reverse them.

But Mr Sunak said they were needed to fund the NHS, and accused her of believing in economic "fairy tales".

Rivals also sparred over Boris Johnson, trans rights and trust in politics.

All five remaining candidates in the Tory leadership race took part in the Channel 4 TV debate, the first of two this weekend. They come ahead of the next round of MPs' voting on Monday.

Tory MPs will whittle the field down to two final contenders next week, before around 160,000 Tory members decide the party's next leader in a postal vote.

In a lively 90 minutes of exchanges, the economic backdrop loomed large as candidates were pushed on how they would fund public services and help people with the cost of living during a time of soaring inflation.

Mr Sunak, currently in pole position among MPs, was forced to defend tax rises introduced during his time as chancellor, including April's hike in National Insurance to pay for social care and the NHS.

Ms Truss, who came third in the latest MPs' voting round on Thursday, said the hike had been "wrong" and said she had "called it out" in cabinet.

She said if she won power she would reverse the rise, as well as removing green levies on energy bills - saying she would pay for it for by spreading the UK's "Covid debt" over a longer period.

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But Mr Sunak rubbished her proposals, saying there was "no such thing as Covid debt" and warned against an "unfunded spree" of tax cuts, adding that "borrowing your way out of inflation isn't a plan, it's a fairy-tale".

Trade Minister Penny Mordaunt, currently second in the contest, said her economic blueprint, which involve raising income tax thresholds in line with inflation, was based on better "growth and competition".

When pressed by Mr Sunak that her plans would also require more borrowing, she denied she had promised to "reduce a load of taxes" but said "people need help now".

"Next April we are going to be one of the most uncompetitive nations in terms of our tax competitiveness. That cannot be allowed to happen," she added.

Elsewhere, candidates traded blows over Mr Johnson's legacy and trust in politics after the Partygate and Chris Pincher affairs that played a key role in the Tory revolt that forced the prime minister from office.

Mr Tugendhat, the fifth-placed contender among MPs and the only one not to have held a ministerial post under Mr Johnson, said his party needed a "break from those who sat around the table" to reset the party's direction.

He pitched himself as a "clean face" and when asked for a yes or no answer on whether Mr Johnson was honest, Mr Tugendhat was the only candidate to answer with a direct "no", which won applause from the crowd.

Asked the same question, Ms Badenoch said "sometimes", Ms Mordaunt said she was "not doing a yes or no" but there had been some "really severe issues", while Ms Truss said Mr Johnson "has been very clear himself that he made mistakes in government". Mr Sunak said he had tried to give Mr Johnson "the benefit of the doubt for as long as possible but ultimately I reached the conclusion that I couldn't and that's why I resigned".

Mr Tugendhat later told the debate: "It's easy to stand up to your enemies - it's sometimes harder to stand up to your friends."

He also said he had not supported the National Insurance rise, calling it a "tax on jobs", and accused Mr Sunak of only backing it in office "because the boss wanted it".

But the backbench MP's interventions received a curt response from fourth-placed contender Kemi Badenoch, a former equalities minister, who said he "didn't have any responsibilities" and likened him to a pupil pointing out problems from the "back of the class".

Elsewhere in the debate:

  • Penny Mordaunt said she took attacks on her in the press from rivals as a "big fat compliment that no one wants to run against me"

  • Kemi Badenoch was the only candidate who said she would not recommit to the government's pledge to reach net zero carbon emissions by 2050

  • Liz Truss blamed the Bank of England for high inflation, arguing "we haven't been tough enough on the monetary supply"

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Ms Mordaunt also clashed with Ms Truss and Ms Badenoch over her record on trans rights during her time as an equalities minister.

Both Ms Badenoch and Ms Truss accused Ms Mordaunt of supporting "self-ID", a process allowing a trans person to legally change their gender without, for example, a medical diagnosis.

Ms Mordaunt denied ever supporting the policy, but Ms Badenoch, who previously served as a junior equalities minister in 2020-21, said she found that "hard to accept" and her understanding was Ms Mordaunt had pushed for it.

Ms Truss, who also had responsibility for equalities alongside her role as foreign secretary, said she had "changed the outcome" of a consultation to ensure self-ID was not brought in.

While Mr Sunak was not asked about gender identity during the debate, speaking on Saturday he said: "I'm the father of two young girls and I want to make sure that women's rights are protected, whether that's in sports, in changing rooms or in language.

"But of course I respect everyone's freedom to love who they want and live as they live. But we must be unequivocal, as I am, about protecting women's rights."

The next debate is on ITV at 19:00 BST on Sunday.