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Is Tuchel right to be underwhelmed by England fans?

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    Get Involvedpublished at 12:42 BST

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    Let's get some perspective, it was a midweek friendly against Wales. It would've been totally different if it were a qualifier and I'm sure the atmosphere next week against Latvia will be better. That being said, Wembley atmospheres are notoriously drab. Maybe play around the country more?

    Ben, London

  2. Tuchel's start the equal bestpublished at 12:36 BST

    Jordan Butler
    BBC Sport journalist

    Thomas Tuchel has made the joint-best start of any England manger.

    The German is one of only three managers to win six of their opening seven matches, along with Glenn Hoddle between 1996 and 1997 and Sven-Goran Eriksson in 2001.

    Tuchel has registered victories over Albania, Latvia, Serbia, Wales and Andorra twice, with a 3-1 home defeat to Senegal the only blemish on his record so far.

    That loss at the City Ground was the only time Tuchel’s side have failed to keep a clean sheet.

    No England boss has won all of their first seven fixtures and only two have remained unbeaten after seven matches – Roy Hodgson and Graham Taylor.

    A list of the England managers to make the best starts after seven matches
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    Get Involved - Is Tuchel fair for calling out England crowd?published at 12:29 BST

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    This one has sparked huge debate across social media and over on our news story already but now we want to hear your views.

    Was England manager Thomas Tuchel right for calling out the crowd at Wembley yesterday evening?

    Hearing the manager question your support - has it rubbed you up the wrong way or do you think he has every right to air his views?

    It was only a friendly after all, but should the team be getting full vocal backing regardless of circumstance?

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    Get Involvedpublished at 12:21 BST

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    Why does there need to be an atmosphere at an international friendly? These games serve as some of the only opportunities for kids to see Premier League stars in the flesh and that should be the priority. I don't know people expect every game to be like a European night.

    Mike, Cardiff

  5. Where else have England played home matches?published at 12:15 BST

    England 3-0 Wales

    England fans at St James' ParkImage source, Getty Images

    England are no strangers to not playing at Wembley, with two of their last three home matches coming away from the national stadium.

    Last five home matches not at Wembley:

    • England 2-0 Andorra - Villa Park 6 September 2025
    • England 1-3 Senegal - City Ground 10 June 2025
    • England 3-0 Bosnia and Herzegovina - St James' Park 3 June 2024
    • England 7-0 North Macedonia - Old Trafford 19 June 2023
    • England 0-4 Hungary - Molineux 14 June 2022
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    Get Involvedpublished at 12:00 BST

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    I tuned into the match on Radio 5 live just before England's second goal. Listening to the crowd noise when the goal went in I genuinely couldn't tell if it was England or Wales that scored.

    Nick, Bournemouth

  7. Postpublished at 11:58 BST

    We'll keep you updated with England's game in Switzerland right here.

    Now, back to atmosphere chat.

  8. England’s future looks brightpublished at 11:55 BST

    Moldova U21 vs England U21

    Jordan Butler
    BBC Sport journalist

    As well as the Under-20s, the Under-21s are also in action at 17:00 BST today in a European Championship qualifier against Moldova.

    Lee Carsley’s side sit in Group D and will expect to close the gap on early pacesetters Slovakia and Ireland, who meet later this evening in Cork.

    England have won successive European Championships at under-21 level, both in 2023 and last summer, and will seek a hat-trick of victories if they reach the 2027 tournament.

    Italy are the only nation to lift three successive under-21 Euros titles and did so between 1992 and 1996.

    Carsley’s current squad have made close to 300 Premier League appearances between them and the likes of Jobe Bellingham, Jamie Gittens, Lewis Hall, Rico Lewis, Lewis Miley and Ethan Nwaneri have all featured in the Champions League.

    Newcastle’s Hall and Manchester City’s Lewis have also won senior international caps.

    Uefa under-21 Championship qualifying - Group D table featuring England and the Republic of Ireland
  9. England’s youngsters take on Switzerlandpublished at 11:53 BST

    England v Switzerland (12:00 BST)

    Simon Stone
    BBC Sport Chief Football News Reporter at St George’s Park

    England’s senior team did well last night, now it is the turn of their Under-20s team, who take on Switzerland at St George’s Park.

    It will be interesting to see how Manchester United youngster Shea Lacey does after he trained with Thomas Tuchel’s squad earlier this week.

    Another United youngster Ayden Heaven is also part of the group.

    EnglandImage source, BBC Sport
  10. Postpublished at 11:51 BST

    Thanks to everyone who has got involved so far. Love reading your takes.

    We're briefly moving away from the England first team, but we shall return!

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    Get Involvedpublished at 11:49 BST

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    If Tuchel wants involvement from the fans then he needs to get the team playing for 90 minutes! The players and he are paid to be there, the fans pay lots to be there, and if they are not being entertained, they won't react.

    Brian, Wolverhampton

  12. What have other managers said?published at 11:44 BST

    England 3-0 Wales

    Gareth Southgate, Roy Hodgson and Fabio CapelloImage source, Getty Images

    As our correspondent John Murray says, Thomas Tuchel's comments may have attracted a lot of attention but they are not the first time an England manager has had their say on a Wembley crowd.

    Fabio Capello on playing at Wembley in 2008: "I prefer playing away from home. When we play at Wembley, sometimes the first mistake the crowd whistle. I think, at this moment, the players play better away from home. They play with more confidence"

    Roy Hodgson on low attendances in 2014: "We'll find it hard to bring attendances back because the opponents we're playing won't excite the public."

    Gareth Southagte on paper planes being thrown during a game in 2024: "I saw a couple of those [paper planes] after about 10 minutes. I’m not a big paper plane man, I couldn’t look at the designs to pick up any tips. We’ve had that throughout.

    "I don’t think it always reflects the game. People can do as they please with their paper planes. Watching the game back, for 75 minutes or so, the national anthem was being sung. People in the stadium recognised we had young players coming on to the pitch."

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    Get Involvedpublished at 11:38 BST

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    I could hear the Welsh fans. But to say the crowd was muted is an understatement. The twelfth man needed to be substituted! Or give them kazoos…

    David, West London

  14. 'Tuchel not the first England manager to question atmosphere'published at 11:33 BST

    John Murray
    BBC football correspondent on BBC Radio 5 Live

    The England Supporters Travel Club have long tried to improve the atmosphere at England home matches and only last month asked members for suggestions about "improving the visual and vocal atmosphere".

    As Tuchel acknowledged it’s not an issue for away matches, and praised the support in Belgrade last month. It’s to do specifically with the national stadium.

    Which is not to say that Wembley is never vibrant for England - think back to the Euros in 2021, and what it sounded like when Germany were beaten or when the explosion of noise when Luke Shaw opened the scoring in the final was as loud as anything I’ve heard there.

    But Thomas Tuchel is not the first England manager to question it and will probably not be the last.

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    Get Involvedpublished at 11:28 BST

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    The problem with Wembley games is that there is no jeopardy any more. With the qualification regime having got so much easier there is rarely anything at stake. For those advocating moving them around the country, Forest fans booed England off and the Villa fans went home early.

    Stephen, Suffolk

  16. 'Thousands of seats remained empty'published at 11:24 BST

    John Murray
    BBC football correspondent on BBC Radio 5 Live

    Thomas Tuchel’s comments about a "silent" Wembley have already sparked a debate about how the atmosphere for England matches there can be improved.

    Inside Wembley last night, it struck me once again how when the second half began thousands of seats remained empty and it wasn’t until some time after the break they finally returned.

    Very often for England matches at Wembley, it can be so quiet and the paper-plane throwing there that irked Gareth Southgate throughout his time in charge is still very much a thing.

    Wembley for England is a changing crowd every time they play. The “Club Wembley” contingent enjoying hospitality packages doesn’t help in that regard and it’s never a good look when many of their seats behind the tunnel and the dugout are still vacant well into the second half.

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    Get Involvedpublished at 11:18 BST

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    I’d love to take my kids to watch England but I live in York so it would cost £’s to travel to London and buy tickets and stay over. England represent all of England so why not play in Leeds or Birmingham for example where others get the opportunity.

    George, York

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    Get Involvedpublished at 11:15 BST

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    After watching the game on TV I think I felt a lot like the crowd must have felt. For sure, the first 20 minutes was very exciting and the rest of the first half was also good. However, the second half was, quite frankly, boring, especially after the substitutions.

    Owen, South Yorkshire

  19. Wembley sold out for Wales clashpublished at 11:08 BST

    England 3-0 Wales

    England crowd at WembleyImage source, Getty Images

    England had confirmed, external before the match on Thursday that it would be a sell-out crowd inside Wembley stadium.

    More than seven thousand fans made the trip from Wales with an attendance on-screen in the second half as 78,126.

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    Get Involvedpublished at 11:07 BST

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    Can't argue with what he's saying - every single England game at Wembley starts emptying by 80 minutes and by full-time it's half empty

    Jack, Swindon