What can be done to improve England's atmosphere problem?

  1. Goodbyepublished at 14:14 BST 10 October

    That brings us to the end of Friday's football live.

    A fair few talking points from a busy night of international football.

    We'll be back with you on Monday, try not to have too much fun over another weekend of no Premier League football.

    Until then, see ya!

  2. What have you missed today?published at 14:10 BST 10 October

    Plenty to chew over as Thomas Tuchel’s England continue to take shape - from the debate over fan atmosphere to the numbers behind his reign so far. Here is a quick recap from today:

    Meanwhile, there were also some great comments reacting to Tuchel's comments about the atmosphere amongst other things.

  3. get involved

    Get Involved - 'Lots of people need to leave early'published at 14:07 BST 10 October

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    Public transport out of London dictates that a lot of people have to leave 20 minutes before the end of the game in order to get home. My last train out of London was 11pm and getting out of Wembley takes a long time.

    Robert

    One of the problems with England is we have minimal songs or chants. Nothing to really get your voice behind.

    Adrian, London

  4. England U20’s beaten by Switzerlandpublished at 14:05 BST 10 October

    England 0-1 Switzerland

    Simon Stone
    BBC Sport Chief Football News Reporter at St George’s Park

    An outstanding performance from goalkeeper Tommy Setford wasn’t enough to prevent England losing their Under-20 international to Switzerland at St George’s Park.

    Setford was beaten by Winsley Boteli’s close range finish nine minutes before the break but without the Arsenal man the damage would have been worse.

    The 19-year-old prevented Boteli doubling Switzerland’s lead nine minutes into the second half, staying strong to beat away the striker’s shot from 10 yards.

    The Arsenal goalkeeper had already made two outstanding saves in the opening period to deny Switzerland an opener before he was eventually beaten.

    Shea Lacey caught the eye for England before he was replaced after an hour.

    Aston Villa’s Jamaldeen Jimoh came closest to an equaliser but his low shot was touched round the post by Switzerland keeper Aubert Marwan, who also stopped a goalbound effort from Ethan Wheatley in the final minute.

    …Image source, BBC Sport
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    England

  5. England equal best scoring streak since 1950spublished at 14:02 BST 10 October

    England scored for the 17th match in a row last night, the joint-fourth longest such run in their history.

    The current streak began at Euro 2024, when Jude Bellingham equalised against Slovakia with an overhead kick in stoppage time.

    It’s the first time in 34 years that England have scored in as many successive games. They haven’t had a better run since the early 1950s, while their top two sequences were split by a goalless draw away to Wales in March 1902.

    Graphic showing England's longest scoring streaks
  6. get involved

    Get Involved - Discounted tickets the way forward?published at 13:56 BST 10 October

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    I think the cost of watching England puts a lot of true fans off. Maybe offering a number of discounted tickets would help get the atmosphere going!

    Stephen, Swindon

  7. get involved

    Get Involved - 'Limited jeopardy watching England'published at 13:52 BST 10 October

    Agree with England on tour. I've watched them at Old Trafford, Anfield and St James' Park. All great atmospheres. But, also understanding there is limited jeopardy watching England these days.

    Lee, Manchester

  8. 'Matches have to be taken away from Wembley' - Best of socialpublished at 13:46 BST 10 October

    England 3-0 Wales

    WembleyImage source, Getty Images

    The atmosphere comments from Thomas Tuchel have got the world buzzing and by world I mean England fans on social media.

    Here's a round-up of some of the best comments from X and they all have one common theme...

    @ScottWilsonecho: "If Thomas Tuchel wants more of an atmosphere at England games, the FA have to take matches like tonight’s away from Wembley. Wembley’s great for big games. But friendlies and one-sided qualifiers? Head to different parts of the country. You’ll get an atmosphere there…"

    @HenryWinter: "Bit early for “silent night”, but you get Thomas Tuchel’s drift. Bit unnecessary to call out your own fans but Tuchel always does things his way. With England winning and playing well, he can get away with it. He’s not here for long, so he doesn’t need to worry who he upsets long-term. He’s also right. Some of the hard-core home-and-away England fans will agree about the atmosphere and empty seats in the second half - starting with Club Wembley, the first part to show empty seats after half-time. Answer: Take England around the country for friendlies."

    @Edward_w97: "England regulars endure most Wembley matches. It’s an expensive, tedious place to get to and 95% of the games are routine ones like tonight. Hard to get yourself pumped up for a full 90 no matter how passionate you are. Need to put only big games here if you want more noise…"

  9. get involved

    Get Involved - 'Get kids passionate about watching England'published at 13:42 BST 10 October

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    It should be competitive games only at Wembley. All others, around the country. Get people, kids and groups passionate about coming to watch England. Turn it into a club game atmosphere and stop selling off to corporates and tourists. Get the players fired up, and that will get the fans fired up too!

    Dan, Coventry

    Stop filling seats with corporate events / tickets and casuals. Wembley atmosphere is dead enough as it is. Get to some proper stadiums and get tickets to REAL fans.

    T, Manchester

  10. 'There were paper aeroplanes flying around'published at 13:38 BST 10 October

    England 3-0 Wales

    BBC Newsbeat

    The England Pod's Ali Maxwell talking to BBC Newsbeat's Jack Gray: "I was there at Wembley last night. There were paper aeroplanes flying around. There was an attempted Mexican wave in the top tier which didn't get that far.

    "Atmosphere-wise, it really did slow down in the second half. The Wales fans were magnificent. Tops off, jumping up and down.

    "To me, it's disappointing that he brought it up as he did. I definitely understand his point of view and I don't think what he said is incorrect but I don't really see the point in him saying this.

    "The two friendlies in March will both be at Wembley. Rather than us focusing on two excellent performances in a row, all he's done really is create a negative talking point."

  11. Postpublished at 13:36 BST 10 October

    Alex Fletcher
    BBC Sport journalist

    Remember those paper planes we were talking about earlier?

    They are back.

  12. Excitement the answer?published at 13:29 BST 10 October

    England 3-0 Wales

    Stats under Thomas Tuchel

    Thomas Tuchel’s teams are often praised for their tactical intelligence and organisation, but opinions differ on the entertainment factor. At Chelsea and Bayern, his sides could be ruthlessly efficient, sometimes at the expense of flair.

    Yet, when his systems click, the football can be fast, fluid, and thrilling, with sharp transitions and clever pressing. It’s a style that rewards patience and understanding, maybe not always flashy, but rarely boring.

    The Three Lions have dominated possession under him so far, yet most games have been against teams sitting deep in a low block - sometimes frustrating for both Tuchel and his players. When opponents have tried to be more expansive, like Serbia and Wales, England’s attacking quality has shone through, with emphatic wins of 5-0 and 3-0 respectively.

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    Get Involved - 'The two feed off each other'published at 13:23 BST 10 October

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    Yes, Wembley is our home stadium. This is the place - more than any - where the fans can really make a difference. If we want exciting football, then we need to create an atmosphere. The two feed off each other.

    Thomas

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    Get Involved - 'Atmosphere at Wembley is never great'published at 13:18 BST 10 October

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    The atmosphere at Wembley is never great. Modern stadiums are poor compared to the old ones.

    Steven

    Usual story. Keep playing at Wembley with no atmosphere and deny the rest of the country the chance to watch England live at various grounds with proper support.

    Christopher

  15. Do England have to play at Wembley?published at 13:14 BST 10 October

    England 3-0 Wales

    Liam Gallagher and Taylor SwiftImage source, Getty Images

    In short, no.

    But things are a little bit more complicated than that.

    The FA owns Wembley stadium and needs to make money from it. That is the bottom line.

    This can be done in many ways that don't just involve England's football teams playing there, for example, according to The Athletic , external2024 saw the stadium make £24 million thanks to a raft of concerts from Taylor Swift.

    A forecast for this year suggests events such as the Oasis reunion tour and Oleksandr Usyk vs Daniel Dubois could see the stadium make more money this time around.

    England themselves have only played at Wembley three times this year, with one final game to come against Serbia next month.

    Last September, the FA gained permission from Brent Council, Wembley’s local authority, to increase the number of large, or “full bowl”, events it can host every year from 46 to 54.

  16. Postpublished at 13:11 BST 10 October

    Alex Fletcher
    BBC Sport journalist

    A well deserved break might I add, Joe.

    As he points out, we want you to give us your suggestions on 'what can be done to improve the Wembley atmosphere?'

    We'll share the best of your replies. Get involved at the top of the page.

    Let's kick-start the chat with a look at some events that have seen a bit of a different atmosphere at the national stadium.

  17. Postpublished at 13:06 BST 10 October

    Joe Rindl
    BBC Sport

    Thanks for getting involved, Tom.

    Is that the solution then? Have England play away from Wembley and fan atmosphere will improve?

    I'll let you ponder that one with Alex Fletcher. It's time for me to take a break.

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    Get Involvedpublished at 13:01 BST 10 October

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    Ben is spot on. Play more matches at other stadiums. They might be smaller than Wembley but great for the 50m+ people who live outside of London. Old Trafford, Anfield, and SJP all over 50k. Add Villa Park and you have the North West, North East, and Midlands all covered.

    Tom, Bristol

  19. England behind at the breakpublished at 12:56 BST 10 October

    England 0-1 Switzerland

    Simon Stone
    BBC Sport Chief Football News Reporter at St George’s Park

    England were behind at the break in their Under-20 international with Switzerland.

    Striker Winsley Boteli, on loan with Swiss side FC Sion from Borussia Monchengladbach, put the visitors ahead with a close range finish nine minutes before the break.

    Both goalkeepers caught the eye at St George’s Park, with Arsenal’s Tommy Setford making a couple of excellent close range stops.

    Shea Lacey, Ato Ampah and Law McCabe were all denied by Switzerland’s Aubert Marwan at the other end.

    West Ham’s Lewis Orford did beat Marwan but his delicate chip as the keeper advanced bounced just the wrong side of the post.

    England playersImage source, BBC Sport
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    Get Involvedpublished at 12:49 BST 10 October

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    He’s spot on. It may have been a friendly but the players are always criticised for laboured performances at Wembley. Give them a bit of support to keep the foot on the gas.

    Luke, Glasgow