'Win against Brighton and suddenly you're looking up the table'published at 14:48 BST 21 October
14:48 BST 21 October
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BBC Radio Manchester's Gaz Drinkwater says United finishing in the Premier League's top six should be the "minimum requirement" for Ruben Amorim this season.
The Red Devils' impressive win at Liverpool on Sunday moved them to ninth in the table but just three points behind Manchester City in second.
"With the squad and with performances like that, we could be up there in the top six," Drinkwater told the Devils' Advocate podcast.
"Our squad is good enough to finish top six. It is. That should be the minimum requirement for this season.
"And if we're in the top six and we're looking comfortable and showing that we're capable of never mind back-to-back wins in a row but three or four wins in a row, then who knows where we can finish.
"But, we've not yet proven that we're capable of consistent winning form. Two wins in a row is a great start, particularly when one comes at Anfield which is a ridiculously hard place to win at, but now we've got Brighton next. They are a difficult team.
"You want to play them at Old Trafford and you want to play well and get a result. In the Premier League I don't think United have played too badly.
"Suddenly if you play well and draw that game it isn't a disaster. If they win suddenly you're looking up the table.
"They've had two stinkers against Manchester City and Brentford and deserved to get beat.
"For the rest of the time I don't think they've played horrifically."
Are the tides turning for Man Utd?published at 12:05 BST 21 October
12:05 BST 21 October
Alex Turk Fan writer
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Is that the noise of turning tides I hear? It is easy to believe so after watching Manchester United defeat Liverpool at Anfield for the first time since 2016.
How about a first Premier League away win since March? Or back-to-back Premier League wins that have not been since before Ruben Amorim took charge?
So the possibility of turning tides is a fair topic to discuss this week.
United rode their luck at Anfield, as every team must to win on the red side of Stanley Park. However, the Red Devils displayed an attacking quality that was non-existent last season, and a defensive resilience that has been just as scarce.
For a second successive win, Amorim proved he could tweak his tactics to undo the opposition. Benjamin Sesko's exclusion in a game where United were certain to go long was a surprise. Some were acceptant of another miserable Sunday on Merseyside.
Yet it was a genius ploy to ensure that Virgil van Dijk and Ibrahima Konate won Senne Lammens' impressively long kicks so that the energetic Matheus Cunha, Bryan Mbeumo, Amad Diallo and Bruno Fernandes could sweep up second balls.
It created the second-minute opener and left Arne Slot scrambling - moments after he moaned about the fact Sesko was not starting before kick-off, as if that is what he had been preparing his champions for all week.
This is a good look for Amorim. He was a coach who lit up European football at Sporting and this was the type of team performance many expected him to orchestrate instantly.
But I must emphasise the use of 'possibility' in paragraph three. United host Brighton at Old Trafford on Saturday, a fixture they have lost in the past three seasons.
Perhaps that is the true test of whether this is, indeed, the noise of turning tides - or merely crashing waves in a familiar sea of misery.
Cunha 'has got the aura of Cantona'published at 11:25 BST 21 October
11:25 BST 21 October
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Matheus Cunha "has got the aura of Eric Cantona," says former Premier League defender Stephen Warnock.
"He has got the weight of the shirt and he loves it," said Warnock on BBC Radio 5 Live's Monday Night Club
Reflecting on his performance in Manchester United's 2-1 win at Liverpool, Warnock added: "Near the end of the game, he had three players around him and he was not fussed at all.
The perfect Anfield ambushpublished at 11:25 BST 21 October
11:25 BST 21 October
Pat Nevin Former footballer and presenter
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Liverpool versus Manchester United was a cracker, filled with incidents, effort and talking points.
Are Liverpool in crisis? Is that really Mo Salah out on the wing and are they a group of individuals not a team?
Was the referee harsh on them for the first goal? Has Arne Slot destroyed a squad that was so successful? And so on...
The United questions are just as obvious: is this a turning point? Why don't they show that level of desire every week? Were they actually just a bit lucky as Liverpool hit the post three times? And if the famous 3-4-2-1 system can win at Anfield, can it succeed everywhere?
Tempting though it is to answer all of these after one pulsating match, or in Liverpool's case four defeats in a row, it's still nothing more than guesswork this early in the season.
My guess is that Liverpool will be fine, they are still making plenty of chances and there are some very good players who will improve and definitely learn to work better together.
Manchester United are harder to read. Under Ruben Amorim they have had more false dawns than a Scottish winter. If they are still within striking distance of the top four by Christmas then acceptable progress will have been made.
In the meantime, United fans must celebrate a famous, rare victory at Anfield - and then hope it isn't a one off.
Gossip: Amorim wants Sporting's Hjulmandpublished at 07:40 BST 21 October
07:40 BST 21 October
Manchester United manager, Ruben Amorim is looking to strengthen his midfield and Sporting's Morten Hjulmand is on the list as a contender. (Team talk), external
The 26-year-old Danish footballer, has emerged as Manchester United's prime target to strengthen their midfield and the Premier League club are optimistic of securing the Dane for about £50m.
Cunha's finest hour as a Red?published at 18:12 BST 20 October
18:12 BST 20 October
Josh Lobley BBC Sport Journalist
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"We have seen [Benjamin] Sesko playing the last three, four, five, six times, and they come to Liverpool and change the line-up. This is not for the first time when we face teams."
The words of Liverpool boss Arne Slot to Sky Sports before Sunday's match against Manchester United.
Amorim's decision to drop Sesko, who had scored in his previous two outings, raised eyebrows but the brilliance of Matheus Cunha rendered it an excellent decision.
On paper, Cunha was down as Sesko's replacement at centre-forward. At Anfield, the Brazil forward was anything but on the day.
Amorim knew that even Sesko - who is more than capable in the air - was going to struggle against Virgil van Dijk and Ibrahima Konate who rank seventh and 11th respectively for aerial duel win percentage in the Premier League this season.
Cunha also knew he would not be able to compete with the pair and opted to drop deeper, interchanging with Bryan Mbeumo and Mason Mount to help United move the ball forward.
That had the secondary effect of handing United an extra body to help with midfield battles, and Cunha won five duels in the game.
It was when Liverpool started to ramp up the pressure in the latter stages of the second half that Cunha's performance went from solid to something outstanding, and is surely his most impressive showing so far in his short United career.
Now operating on his favoured left side, Cunha relished in the chaos, running at Liverpool without fear and refusing to let their physicality rid him of the ball.
He combined excellently with substitutes Sesko and Patrick Dorgu, keeping United high up the pitch and away from Senne Lammens' goal as much as possible.
United's number 10 is probably desperate to score his first goal as a red, but there was no sign of any individual aims at Anfield - his performance was selfless and sacrificial for the good of the team.
Lots was made about Cunha's 'walking stats', external when he arrived at Old Trafford, but it felt like he covered every blade of grass on Merseyside.
As an attacker, you do not need to score or assist a goal to make an important contribution - and Cunha's performance against the champions was the epitome of that.
'Should give Amorim's critics something to think about'published at 16:11 BST 20 October
16:11 BST 20 October
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Jay Motty from The Stretford Paddock says Manchester United's 2-1 win over Liverpool should not be "sugarcoated" but hopes the winning performance can be "a bit of a turning point" for Ruben Amorim's side this season.
It is the first time United have won consecutive games in the league since the end of the 2023-24 season and moved them ninth in the early standings.
"It is somewhat ridiculous that we've had to wait so long for back-to-back Premier League wins," Motty admitted on BBC Radio 5 Live. "So we can't sugar-coat it and pretend everything's fine now, because there are still going to be some questions - but Amorim needed that.
"We've taken wins this season against Sunderland, Burnley and Chelsea - when they went down to 10 men - but you would've expected Manchester United to win those games.
"Those didn't show any turning point, but going to Anfield and taking three points does. It has been almost 10 years since we last won there.
"I liked that the manager did things other managers wouldn't have done, like dropping Benjamin Sesko and changing the way we set up - and it worked.
"We had a game plan, we stuck to it and it was effective. You cannot ignore the fact that these are the league champions and we've gone there and got a win after nine and a half years.
"I've said this a few times, but I'm hoping we can build on this now. Hopefully this can be a bit of a turning point because it should give the players confidence and give Amorim critics something to think about."
🎧 Back-to-back league wins!published at 15:55 BST 20 October
15:55 BST 20 October
On the latest episode of The Devils' Advocate podcast, the team discuss Manchester United's victory over Liverpool at Anfield.
BBC Radio Manchester's Gaz Drinkwater praises the performances of Harry Maguire and Matheus Cunha, adding that this could be a "turning point" for Ruben Amorim's side.
Dalot relief as Man Utd show training ground formpublished at 15:53 BST 20 October
15:53 BST 20 October
Simon Stone Manchester United reporter
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Manchester United defender Diogo Dalot is relieved his team-mates have started to show their training ground form on a match day.
Head coach Ruben Amorim promised supporters his side would be better this season after last term's dismal 15th-placed finish.
It has been a long time coming, with the shock EFL Cup second round defeat at League Two Grimsby the low point of a disappointing start that saw United lose three out of their opening six Premier League games.
However, they have now followed up a solid victory against Sunderland just before the international break with a first triumph over Liverpool at Anfield since 2016 to move to within touching distance of a European place, which is the stated aim for the season.
"I've been here long enough to understand everyone will have opinions," said Dalot. "Everyone will have something to say about Manchester United. You just have to be ready for that because you're playing for the biggest club in the world.
"Sometimes, especially this season, we've been doing really well in training but then the results are not coming on and that's what everybody sees.
"Ultimately, they will judge what you do on the pitch on the weekend, so we have to win games. That has to be the mindset."
'Man Utd long-ball strategy at Anfield deliberate'published at 13:39 BST 20 October
13:39 BST 20 October
Simon Stone Manchester United reporter
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Manchester United goalkeeper Senne Lammens says the decision to persist with the long ball out of defence at Liverpool on Sunday was pre-planned.
Rather than try to play out from the back to beat Liverpool's press, Lammens took the aerial route, even though 6ft 5in forward Benjamin Sesko started the game on the bench.
The move paid immediate dividends as it was a long ball that eventually led to the aerial collision involving Virgil van Dijk, Alexis Mac Allister and Bryan Mbeumo that created the attack from which the Cameroonian put United in front.
And it was another long punt downfield that forced the corner from which Harry Maguire won the game.
"The coaches try to give you as much information as they can," said Lammens.
"You have to be realistic as well. They are going to go man-v-man, so coming to Anfield it is quite difficult to build up.
"So, we made the decision that we should get more of a long ball and try to win the second ball, even though we didn't really have a target striker. We did it quite well, so that's how we could still push them away."
Lammens has brought a much-needed sense of calm to United's defence even though he has only made two appearances since his £18.1m deadline day move from Belgian club Royal Antwerp.
Head coach Ruben Amorim kept Lammens on the bench for three games after his arrival, two of which ended in defeats at Manchester City and Brentford.
That move has been praised as it gave the 23-year-old time to adjust to his new surroundings.
"I try to keep my best friends and family close. The rest is outside noise," he added.
"My social media has exploded but they told me that before my transfer.
"Now I'm doing good, it's all praise. But I'm realistic. If it doesn't go so well, it will be a bad commentary."
Matchwinner Maguire doesn't know Man Utd futurepublished at 12:42 BST 20 October
12:42 BST 20 October
Simon Stone Manchester United reporter
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Manchester United's Anfield matchwinner Harry Maguire concedes he does not know if he will still be at the club when they play Liverpool next season.
The United defender's late header secured a first win at United's biggest rivals since 2016 and was his 17th goal in 254 appearances for the club.
It was a notable achievement for the 32-year-old, who joined United from Leicester City seven years ago and therefore was tasting victory at Anfield for the first time.
Maguire's contract expires at the end of the season and while it is understood he and his family are settled in the north west, and he is keen to remain at Old Trafford, there has been no agreement over a new deal as yet.
"I've been here seven years now, so it's been tough not getting that win," he said. "It's been on my mind a little bit, to be honest.
"I'm in my last year now, so this could be the last time I played at Anfield for this club, so it's really important that I've come here and ticked that one off."
Head coach Ruben Amorim said the win was his best in almost a full year since arriving from Sporting as Erik ten Hag's replacement.
Maguire knows it will count for little unless United can overcome an in-form Brighton side on home soil on Saturday. The Seagulls have won on their past three visits to Old Trafford.
"We need to build momentum," he said. "The club will probably get a few plaudits this week because of our resilience and fighting spirit.
"But if we don't perform next weekend against Brighton, it will be exactly the same the following week."
Allowing Mbeumo goal to stand was tough decision but right one - Givenpublished at 11:59 BST 20 October
11:59 BST 20 October
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Match of the Day pundit Shay Given says that referee Michael Oliver made the right decision to allow Bryan Mbeumo's goal to stand in Manchester United's 2-1 win over Liverpool in the Premier League.
Mbeumo gave United the lead inside two minutes but Liverpool's players were frustrated that play continued after Alexis Mac Allister went down holding his head after clattering into Virgil van Dijk's elbow.
'I would certainly take Maguire to the World Cup' - Rooneypublished at 09:23 BST 20 October
09:23 BST 20 October
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Former England and Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney believes Harry Maguire's late heroics against Liverpool showed why he deserves a spot in Thomas Tuchel's World Cup squad next summer.
"Harry Maguire's performance showed me why he should be in the World Cup squad," Rooney said on The Wayne Rooney Show. "I really mean that, he is so important.
"I heard Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink speaking about his leadership in that England squad. The players look up to him and it is exactly the same at Manchester United.
"He could have completely downed tools and wanted to leave the football club when he had the captain's armband taken off him. That's not easy for any player. Your self-pride takes a massive hit when that happens.
"But he came in against Liverpool, played really well again and showed that leadership. He is a threat as well when it comes to set-pieces, which are so important in football.
"So that's why I would certainly take him to the World Cup."
'An amazing performance' - fan views on 'fighting display' at Anfieldpublished at 08:43 BST 20 October
08:43 BST 20 October
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We asked for your views on Manchester United's victory at Liverpool on Sunday.
Here are some of your comments:
Paul: Absolutely amazing performance from Manchester United. We had our chances in the first half but Harry Maguire does what he has done for many years. Backs to the wall in the second half but what a result.
Gazza: Cracking - a much-needed win. Defended well and great performances from Matheus Cunha, Bryan Mbeumo and Amad Diallo especially. Time will tell if it's a turning point. We look like we can score this season even if play looked a bit disjointed at times. Let's enjoy this one.
Mick: He was out in the cold for a while, but he persevered and now it pays off for Harry Maguire. Well done, United, and well done, Harry.
Geoffery: Although Liverpool hit the woodwork three times, United could have - or should have - been two or three goals up. Apart from not being able to keep the ball in the last 15 to 20 minutes, they were the better team and deserved to win. Our keeper didn't have one difficult save to make.
Mike: A fighting display. Team looked like they wanted to win and looked balanced. Well done, United. Not there yet but on the road.
Bill: I have been a United supporter for 70 years I have also played golf for 62 years. On Sunday morning, I had my first hole-in-one and I thought the day couldn't get better - but it did. Brilliant from United. You have just made a 78-year-old very happy. Never give up.
Amorim 'absolutely spot on' at Anfield - Rooneypublished at 08:30 BST 20 October
08:30 BST 20 October
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Manchester United's victory at Anfield was their first at the ground since 2016.
Ruben Amorim has endured a largely difficult time at Old Trafford so far but Sunday's 2-1 win means they are up to ninth place, sitting just two points behind fourth-placed Liverpool.
"It is such a huge win for the manager," Rooney said on The Wayne Rooney Show.
"I've questioned his decisions, I've questioned his tactics and I've questioned the players' desire over this season and last season.
"That win is massive because winning at Anfield is not easy to do.
"The confidence that result will give to the players and the manager. I'll be the first to say he [Ruben Amorim] got it absolutely spot on.
"I hope we see more of it. They are only two points off Liverpool now.
"I really liked the performance. We know the players can do it now, so we have to see this on a consistent level."
Man Utd's 'gameplan worked brilliantly'published at 07:28 BST 20 October
07:28 BST 20 October
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Harry Maguire's late header secured Manchester United's first win at Anfield in nearly a decade and inflicted Liverpool's fourth successive defeat.
It was a statement victory for Ruben Amorim's side against their biggest rivals and the manager described it as "the biggest win in my time at Manchester United".
Monday's newspaper back pages convey the magnitude of the result, which also gave United their first consecutive Premier League wins under the Portuguese.
"Amorim has come under a lot of pressure, but now it is back-to-back wins and they have beaten Liverpool," said Clinton Morrison on BBC Radio 5 Live's Football Daily podcast. "It's a big win for United and it puts them right up there in the league.
"United's front three had a lot of pace. They wanted to cause Virgil van Dijk and Ibrahima Konate problems, and they did. It was probably one of the only games that I thought Van Dijk looked rattled in the first half.
"That is because United's gameplan worked brilliantly. They were defending in their numbers and good on the counter-attack.
"They always turn up against the big teams - we saw this last season - so now they need to turn up against Brighton next week.
Gossip: Cantona, Rooney and Beckham approached for takeoverpublished at 06:58 BST 20 October
06:58 BST 20 October
Manchester United legends Eric Cantona, Wayne Rooney and David Beckham have been approached to front a takeover bid for the club by an unknown consortium from the United Arab Emirates. (Guardian), external
Casemiro is set to be offered a new contract at Old Trafford, but any deal will require the midfielder to take a substantial pay cut. (Football Insider), external
United captain Bruno Fernandes is considering leaving at the end of the season if the team do not improve, with Bayern Munich keen to sign the midfielder. (Fichajes - in Spanish), external
Analysis: Maguire continues to prove his critics wrongpublished at 21:02 BST 19 October
21:02 BST 19 October
Simon Stone Manchester United reporter
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Wayne Rooney, Juan Mata, Robin van Persie, Carlos Tevez, John O'Shea, Ryan Giggs and Diego Forlan.
The list of Manchester United players who have scored winning goals at Anfield over the past couple of decades is not extensive.
But you can now add Harry Maguire to it.
It says so much about his resilience that he is still a United player.
Former Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag was willing to sell him to West Ham but the centre-back refused to go. When I spoke to Maguire in August after he had been left out of the opening game of the season and asked about his future, he said he believed he would get enough games.
He never lets his head drop. He always does his best.
There was criticism when he was preferred to Leny Yoro at Anfield but Amorim explained Maguire was going to be a major asset in the box.
He was. In the last frantic stages, he won headers and tackles. He didn't lose his cool when it would be easy to be caught up by a frenetic atmosphere and United were fighting for their lives.
But it was at the other end where Maguire made his decisive contribution - heading in from six yards after Bruno Fernandes had superbly volleyed a cross into his path - to give Amorim his long-awaited second successive Premier League win.
In an era where virtually every facet of a player's game can be measured, it is the one that can't - character - where Maguire really excels.
'It's been a long time coming' - Fernandes and Maguire on 'massive' winpublished at 19:35 BST 19 October
19:35 BST 19 October
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Manchester United captain Bruno Fernandes spoke to BBC Radio 5 Live after victory at Anfield: "Obviously I will be smiling when I win games and I will be smiling less when I lose games. I am very, very happy and very pleased with this win.
"We know how difficult it is to win here at Anfield. It has been ten years since the last time the club won here, we have put that aside now, happy with that. I'm enjoying the moment but I am now already thinking of the next one because if you don't win the next one we are going to get back in the same feeling and moment we were in before.
"I didn't enjoy the second half much, We did not have much of the ball and I think we quit trying to play and have the ball because of their pressure. They are very good at doing that. They put more bodies up front and that makes it difficult for our centre backs to play out from the back. But, the resilience that we showed and the character to defend our box was impressive, but I know and I want our team to play better on the ball.
"I want the team to be confident and for every player to play their own game and have a good feeling to go into the pitch and help the team grow into the best shape that we can.
"We have a lot of talent in this team and a lot of good players sometimes it is difficult to show that when you are not winning. Winning two games now I hope we come with a lot more confidence for the next one. We need to have confidence and arrogant but at the same time with respect for who we are playing."
Goalscorer Harry Maguire spoke to BBC Match of the Day after Sunday's win: "It's been a long-time coming. It's been a tough place for us over recent years. We know how big it is for our fans. We have the cliche of it being 'only three points' but it is more than three points that today.
"It's massive for our club, for our fans and it is a great memory they are going to have. The lads are buzzing and as cliche as it is we need to build on it now and make sure to take the confidence from it and take the fighting spirit.
"We can play better on the ball, of course we can, we were sloppy at times, but there were times where we played through them and created numerous chances, especially in the first half.
"The fight and the spirit has got to be with us every game and that is something we need to make sure we show that against Brighton next Saturday. I'm sure the fans will have a good night."
Liverpool 1-2 Man Utd: What Amorim saidpublished at 19:26 BST 19 October
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Ruben Amorim spoke to BBC Match of the Day after Manchester United's victory against Liverpool: "I am really happy for them [the players], they had great spirit, we should play better with the ball but the spirit of the team, that is the things we are always talking about. A good day for the fans but now lets focus on the next one.
On what two back-to-back wins mean: "It's everything combined for the fans if you ask them on two wins after so many years, it is really important, for me that is back-to-back, it doesn't matter on the opponent it is just the feeling of winning. The important to think three in the row and that's the focus.
"Sometimes we struggle to choose the right time to press. We didn't start well after the equaliser but we controlled the momentum and pushing them to their half when they had the ball is important and that is where we won the game."
On Harry Maguire: "Maguire is so important in this moment. When we have a moment you can feel the team struggle a lot but I was truing to prepare the way he plays and the way he controls those set pieces and you saw it today, he scored a goal but that experience is really important.
"It's one more win, enjoy it. Tomorrow let's forget about it and focus on the next one right away."
Did you know?
Manchester United have won their first Premier League away game against Liverpool since January 2016 under Louis van Gaal, ending a run of nine league games without victory at Anfield (D5 L4).
Manchester United have won back-to-back Premier League games for the first time since winning their final two games of the 2023-24 season and their opening game of the 2024-25 campaign. The Red Devils are the last of the 17 ever-present sides since the start of last season to win two in a row in the top-flight.