Farewellpublished at 16:42 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
Well that was not the start to England's autumn they wanted, or expected.
Where to now for Eddie Jones and co? There's a blackboard to get back to.
See you all next weekend...
Summary
Argentina beat England at Twickenham for first time since 2006
England had won last 10 matches against Argentina
England face Argentina in their opening game of 2023 World Cup
Joe Cokanasiga scored only try as England led 16-12 at half-time
Pumas scored two tries at start of second half to take lead
Jack van Poortvliet scored within minute of coming on
But Boffelli penalty gave Argentina lead in 68th minute
Farewellpublished at 16:42 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
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Look out for a red-hot Rugby Union Daily episode landing in your podcast feed shortly after the final whistle.
Chris Jones, Chris Ashton and Paul Grayson are at Twickenham to discuss England v Argentina and some of the other big stories from the weekend.
There will be more every day throughout this autumn with discussion and interviewees around the Rugby World Cup in New Zealand and the Autumn Nations Series.
'It's not good enough'published at 16:39 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
England 29-30 Argentina
More from England coach Eddie Jones: "After half time we were getting our game in place, we were looking fluid in attack but then we made mistakes and we were chasing our tail.
"We made silly mistakes but I like the way the team went about it. We didn't finish well, there was that lack of cohesion.
"It's not good enough - we realise it's not good enough."
get involved Get Involvedpublished at 16:36 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
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Adam Tauszky: Discipline discipline discipline. It has cost us for years and it isn’t getting any better if anything it is getting worse. It has to be addressed otherwise we will continue to go nowhere
Matt Whiting: Don’t get me started … but too late!! Players out of position, picking players with little or no game time, picking Smith but not allowing him to run the game, kicking for the posts when should be finding touch, too many penalties, not strong enough in the scrum …
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More from Michael Cheika: "Eddie Jones is a good fella. He'll be back, Japan next week is a big game for him."
'We kept making fundamental mistakes'published at 16:35 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
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Image source, Getty ImagesEngland coach Eddie Jones on Prime Video: "Losing always hurts. It was one of those games, the lead changed a lot.
"You can't put your finger on what went wrong. Structurally we had control of the game but we kept making fundamental mistakes and easy errors. Congratulations to Argentina, they took their chances and stuck in the game.
"We have no excuses, the referee, the pitch was the same for both teams. They got the points at the right time. We lacked cohesion."
get involved Get Involvedpublished at 16:32 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
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With all England’s resources Eddie Jones is taking the team backwards.The RFU of course will not change anything we will not get out of our group in the World Cup playing like that.
Tim, Cambridgeshire
Time for Eddie Jones to go and Farrell to lose captaincy. Very poor performance by England, Farrell shouldn't be talking about development after this long in the squad and a year out from a World Cup.
Kris, Leeds
'We were able to pounce'published at 16:29 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
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Image source, Getty ImagesArgentina coach Michael Cheika on Prime Video: "The players have got a great attitude. They need to know what defence is, it's not about a great ending it's about getting a good field position so you are able to pounce.
"We were able to take points even though we didn't have a lot of ball."
'Our attitude was important'published at 16:20 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
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Argentina wing Emiliano Boffelli: "We said at half-time that we must stay close in the score, then we got two tries. Our attitude was important. The coach, everyone knows him as a coach and he has great experience. He is confident in us.
"To score 25 points at Twickenham is great! The whole team did their job."
Image source, Getty Imagesget involved Get Involvedpublished at 16:14 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
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England going backwards under Jones. Years in charge yet no identity in how they want to play.
Gary, Glossop
It's time for Eddie Jones to go. England going backwards and not utilising the full power of their money and reach to propel themselves to the peaks they should be at. Time for a forward thinking coach, preferably English.
Franko
I reckon any coach in the Prem would do a better job with this team than Eddie. Yeah so he's developed a team culture, but that's useless if they don't play well and there's no development. After that performance I fear losses in the next 3 games, including Japan.
Steve, Powys
'We can't drop confidence'published at 16:12 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
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England captain Owen Farrell to Prime Video: "We talked about some issues we had on the field that we didn't address, we can't drop confidence because of this.
"We had scrappy parts of the game which will get better, the discipline is avoidable and it wasn't quite happening. We let the pressure off at times. It was a wet day, a wet pitch and as you saw both teams didn't move the ball well.
"The penalties stopped our momentum. We weren't at our best and that's what we are here to do."
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England play the All Blacks in a fortnight...
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The Argentine players celebrate in a focused huddle as skipper Julian Montoya delivers a surmon. Great win!
Image source, Getty Imagesget involved Get Involvedpublished at 16:05 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
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Frank Maguire: Eddie Jones has taken England absolutely nowhere and wasted a lot of talent. Out of ideas and his time is up. RFU should make the brave right call and change him whilst we still have time to rebuild ahead of the World Cup
Theo: Shambles of a performance from England. Architects of their own downfall with self inflicted penalties which cost us. Eddie Jones needs to go for me. All the same errors are still there from last year
Postpublished at 16:04 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
England 29-30 Argentina
Argentina had 37% of possession but came up with two opportunist tries and kicked with nerves of steel all game.
Thoughts?
get involved Get Involvedpublished at 16:03 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
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SAFCPete: Throughout EJ reign we have witnessed indiscipline and stupid penalties being given away. Every time the opponent attacks us it’s a guaranteed minimum 3 points. That’s why he needs to go. Nothing is improving. So frustrating with all our resources, no excuse.
Full-timepublished at 16:03 Greenwich Mean Time 6 November 2022
BreakingEngland 29-30 Argentina
Argentina win at Twickenham for the first time since 2006!
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Henry Slade drops the ball in contact. And that should be that...
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England 29-30 Argentina
England have the ball in hand, out wide. They are in their own half and need something special...
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A bit of respite as England get the ball back. Should Argentina have kicked that?