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  1. Smith to Scotland? Townsend to Edinburgh? - your questions answeredpublished at 10:43 19 February

    Behind the mic

    BBC Scotland's Andy Burke has been answering some of your Scottish rugby questions.

    Matthew asked: What are your thoughts on Franco Smith's comments in the media the other day? I almost saw it as a 'take it or leave it' message to the SRU in relation to the Scotland job. Also, do you feel Gregor Townsend has taken this team as far as he can?

    Andy answered: I was very surprised at Franco Smith's comments. He didn't just leave the door ajar for an approach from Wales, he pretty much got the tools out and took the door straight off its hinges.

    The chat we've been hearing for some time is that after his difficult spell with Italy a few years back, Smith preferred the day-to-day coaching that comes with a club job. His comments before and after Glasgow's victory over Dragons blew that notion out the water.

    So what's Smith's play here? He could have quietly let it be known to the WRU that he was interested in the Wales job rather than doing so publicly. So was it a power play to force the SRU to give him some assurances the Scotland job is coming his way sooner rather than later? It's hard to know.

    Any review and decision around Gregor Townsend's future should, and will, come at the end of the Six Nations. Smith's comments, coming in Calcutta Cup week, is an unwelcome distraction.

    It's unclear just how well Smith and performance director David Nucifora have hit it off since the Australian arrived on the scene with seemingly free rein to change up anything he sees fit in Scottish Rugby. What little we do know about Nucifora, it's doubtful he will appreciate being pressured so publicly by one of his own coaches.

    Colin asked: Time must surely be up for Sean Everitt at Edinburgh. How about this fanciful notion... Smith to Scotland, and one of the (nearly) available big-hitters goes to Glasgow. Townsend (in dreamland) goes to Edinburgh. He's the only one who has proven he can get those players to perform. Could he do it at club level? Too big a step down for him?

    Andy answered: Edinburgh's home defeat to Zebre was desperately poor, but not at all surprising from a group of players who have proved to be less than the some of their parts time and time again.

    Clearly the problems run deeper than the head coach, but Sean Everitt has at no point looked convincingly like the man to get this train moving in the right direction.

    Gregor Townsend to take over at Edinburgh? I'd say that is highly unlikely.

    Townsend got the Scotland job on account of his excellent work with Glasgow, and despite what his critics may argue, he has achieved many notable successes as national head coach.

    So none of that suggests he would see joining a failing Edinburgh set-up as anything other than a huge step down.

    Big national jobs are few and far between, so if and when Townsend moves on from Scotland, I think a club job in the English Premiership or French Top 14 would be his next port of call.

  2. Horne joins up with Scotland squadpublished at 18:29 18 February

    George HorneImage source, SNS

    George Horne has arrived in Spain to join up the Scotland squad after an eye injury threatened to rule him out of the England game.

    The scrum-half starred in Glasgow's 40-25 win over the Dragons at Rodney Parade and suffered a nasty blow to the face, however after being deemed safe to play by club medics, he has joined the squad in Oliva.

    Edinburgh's Ali Price also joined up with the group at the weekend, taking the tally of scrum-halves in camp to four, including Ben White and Jamie Dobie.

    Horne, who has 35 caps for Scotland, featured as a replacement in the round one win against Italy, but Dobie was preferred on the bench against Ireland.

  3. Scotland to take on All Blacks in Autumn Nations Seriespublished at 17:21 18 February

    Darcy Graham sprints away from New Zealand defendersImage source, SNS

    Scotland have confirmed their four opponents in the 2025 Autumn Nations Series at Murrayfield, with New Zealand returning for the first time in three years.

    The Scots will also host the USA, Argentina and Tonga in November, with the US Eagles first up on 1 November.

    Then it will be the turn of the All Blacks, who Scotland are still yet to beat in an international fixture. However, the last two games have provided closer competition, with New Zealand narrowly winning 31-23 in 2022 and 22-17 in 2017.

    Gregor Townsend's side will be looking for revenge against Argentina, after Los Pumas beat them 2-1 over the 2022 summer series in South America.

    The hosts have also played the US recently, beating them 53-6 during the latest summer tour, while they beat Tonga comfortably during the group stage of the 2023 Rugby World Cup.

    Scotland's Autumn Nations Series:

    Saturday 1 November: Scotland v USA (17:40 GMT)

    Saturday 8 November: Scotland v New Zealand (15:10)

    Sunday 16 November: Scotland v Argentina (15:10)

    Sunday 23 November: Scotland v Tonga, (13:40)

  4. Ritchie opens up on 'massive decision' to leave Edinburghpublished at 16:55 18 February

    Tom English
    BBC Scotland's chief sports writer

    Jamie RitchieImage source, SNS

    Jamie Ritchie says he would have regretted not taking the "really difficult" decision to leave boyhood club Edinburgh at the end of this season.

    The flanker will join Perpignan in the summer after a decade in the capital, making 124 appearances in his time there.

    Ritchie made his debut in October 2014 and went on to make his Scotland debut four years later, going on to earn 56 caps to date.

    "It was a massive decision for me, one that my wife and I spent a lot of time mulling over," he said. "Obviously, I've really enjoyed my time at Edinburgh.

    "I've loved it. I've spent my whole adult life there. I arrived at Edinburgh when I was 17-years-old, so it was a really difficult decision to leave.

    "But if I had decided not to leave now, I never would have. I know that I probably would have regretted it if I'd never challenged myself in a different club, a different league. That was part of the decision."

    He will not be alone in France, with Blair Kinghorn already set up in Toulouse and Ben White plying his trade for Toulon, while former Scotland internationals Chris Cusiter, Nathan Hines, and Alastair Strokosch have all pitched up at Stade Aime Giral.

    "Part of it was about experience for myself and my family, getting to live abroad and all the things that come along with that, " Ritchie added, "but also making sure that I didn't finish rugby with any regrets.

    "Playing in France was always something that I thought that I'd potentially do. Off the back of guys like Blair [Kinghorn] moving last year and him saying that he's really enjoyed it, it gives you a bit more confidence to be able to go and make that leap."

    Back to the Calcutta Cup, and the former captain stands a solid chance of returning to the starting XV given Scotland's woes at the breakdown against Ireland.

    "We had a meeting earlier on, just talking about how Ireland put a little bit of pressure on our breakdown," he said.

    "It wasn't necessarily with a lot of steals, but in terms of the quality of the ball that we were getting. They put us under a little bit of pressure. We have to make sure we up that area because we know that England will pose probably a slightly more traditional breakdown threat with their jackals.

    "And also making sure we try and get a bit of a fast start. We were a little bit slow to get going against Ireland, so we're looking to right that one as well."

  5. 'Glasgow can't let any more breakout stars leave'published at 16:14 18 February

    Grant Young
    Glasgow fan columnist

    Fan voice Glasgow

    There is something always fascinating about the URC games in the weeks between Six Nations games.

    Debuts are given, players are played out of position, and others are released from Scotland camp - all adding to a concoction of attacking rugby.

    These fixtures can often be potential banana skins for top teams but, yet again, Glasgow's depth and trust in the full squad shone through.

    Seven tries were unloaded on a hapless Dragons side, with George Horne - now seemingly third choice for Scotland - showing his leadership, Ollie Smith coming through another full game at outside centre, and Nathan McBeth returning from injury.

    George Horne, who now appears to be third choice for Scotland, showed his leadership skills and his ability to snipe and create from nowhere.

    Jack Mann was rightfully awarded player of the match, which made me ponder - have Glasgow missed the trick with Mann leaving for pastures new?

    Having missed so much rugby due to injury, his explosion onto the Glasgow scene makes it no surprise that so many teams were snapping at the heels for his signature.

    Glasgow do have vast experience who can play at number eight but at 25-years-old, Mann has years ahead of him. You just have to hope the SRU and Glasgow do not let a third breakout star head abroad or south.

    Back to Six Nations, and the Warriors continue to be the small shining light for Scotland. A couple of big weeks ahead for the national team and the SRU, and I'll end with a plea.

    Please, don't let the Welsh steal Franco!

  6. 'Nice guy Everitt not enough for Edinburgh'published at 15:29 18 February

    Sandy Smith
    Edinburgh fan columnist

    Fan Voice Edinburgh

    It's not getting any better, is it?

    The loss to Zebre was one of the worst I've seen as an Edinburgh fan and the collective feeling at the Hive Stadium seemed to suggest one answer - a change of head coach.

    Sean Everitt seems like a nice guy, but that's not enough for Edinburgh right now.

    Currently, the team plays like a rabbit caught in the headlights, unsure whether to go left or right - so up the middle we go. Again and again and again, and slowly because well... Ali Price.

    We're desperate. Give us something to cheer. A win or two in the knockout stages of the Challenge cup will do. We aren't a greedy support, just look at the scraps we've survived on this far.

    Stop giving interviews about the top four or about what you are going to achieve. It's become embarrassing and is frankly misleading. Top four? Top 14 may be beyond us with the current trajectory.

    Appoint someone who won't stand for mediocrity, who will back our corner and sounds like he is passionate about getting us winning. Style - optional. Winning - mandatory.

    I'm prepared to accept that the URC title is beyond our grasp this season and further to that, I'd accept defeats in that competition - if they came with mass deployment of our youth and development players with a view to them being battle hardened for next year.

    It is hurtful to us as a fanbase to see supporters of other clubs revelling in our misfortune.

    Sandy Smith can be found at The Burgh Watch, external.

  7. Put your questions to Tom English & Andy Burkepublished at 19:14 17 February

    Have your say

    It's Calcutta Cup week, and Gregor Townsend needs to get Scotland's Six Nations back on track after a bruising loss to Ireland two weeks ago.

    There's no shortage of quandaries domestically, either. Edinburgh appear to be in a right old mess and Franco Smith didn't put out any fires when asked about the Wales job.

    With that in mind, have you got any burning questions to put to our rugby writers Tom English and Andy Burke? Send them in via this link, external and they will be answered on this page later in the week.

  8. Scotland must match England's physical challenge - Hornepublished at 19:00 17 February

    Tom English
    BBC Scotland's chief sports writer

    Scotland coach Peter HorneImage source, SNS

    Scotland are going to have to show "desperation" to keep their Six Nations hopes alive against England on Saturday, says assistant coach Peter Horne.

    The Scots were well beaten by Ireland at Murrayfield earlier this month and sit fourth in the table after two rounds of fixtures.

    Horne also laughed off the suggestion, from a correspondent in a Sunday newspaper, external, that Scotland's forwards are "weedy".

    "The boys have got experience of going down there and getting results, so I think you need to make sure we're not caught off guard by their physicality," Horne said.

    "There's been a lot in the press about them imposing their physicality on our weedy forwards. I think we'll need to make sure we're ready to match that. Our guys are certainly up for the physical challenge, especially off the back of a disappointing result.

    "Having won the last four, there'll be a little bit of needle to add to what's always a very big game. It's a good challenge for our boys to get back on the horse and stay in the tournament."

    Asked if the description of Scotland's forwards as "weedy" had circulated around the camp, Horne said that it hadn't been discussed, but that he saw the comment on an app on his phone and it made him giggle.

    "I've been chucking that at the boys a little bit today just to wind them up," Horne added.

    "That's the sort of thing, if I was a player, it would annoy me. I'd be looking forward to getting out on the park and proving everyone wrong."

    Scotland's lack of physicality against Ireland was "an area that we were a bit disappointed with," he added. "We've done our review. There's been a lot of honest conversations.

    "I know our boys are really keen to get out and right some wrongs. It's a great challenge. If we're serious about staying involved in the tournament and in the hunt for the competition, then we've got to go down and do this this weekend.

    "We've got to go out there and perform. There'll be that desperation. That's what we want to see. We want to see that desperation to stay in the tournament."

  9. Russell & Graham could feature for Scotland against Englandpublished at 17:14 17 February

    Tom English
    BBC Scotland's chief sports writer

    Finn Russell of Scotland leaves the pitch for a HIA after a clash with teammate Darcy Graham, not pictured, during the Guinness Six Nations Rugby Championship match between Scotland and IrelandImage source, Getty Images
    Image caption,

    Finn Russell passed an HIA but national team medics were uneasy about him continuing against Ireland

    Scotland assistant coach Peter Horne says that Finn Russell and Darcy Graham are "progressing" through their concussion protocols but stresses that it's still too early to make a call on their availability for the Calcutta Cup on Saturday.

    Graham clashed heads with Russell during the first half of Scotland's defeat by at Murrayfield earlier this month.

    Both players were left prone on the turf and, while Russell walked off for a head injury assessment (HIA), Graham left the field on a stretcher and was taken to hospital before being released.

    "They're both getting through their protocols at the moment," Horne said. "There's still a couple of days left until we finalise the team. There's a fair bit of training to do. Depending on how that goes, there's a chance that they can both play."

    Russell and Graham did some light skills training in their training camp in Spain on Monday as they step up their return.

    "We'll see how they are off the back of that," says Horne. "The view will be that they'll do a bit of training again tomorrow and then see how we go from there. They're both progressing pretty well. They're in good spirits."

    Scotland travel to London on Thursday and will announce the team to play England that afternoon. Gregor Townsend has multiple decisions to make. If Russell and Graham are both ruled out then the probability is that Tom Jordan will move to 10 with Stafford McDowall or the fit-again Cam Redpath coming in at 12 with Kyle Rowe replacing Graham on the wing.

    Gregor Brown and Jamie Ritchie are both vying for a starting place in the forwards as Townsend seeks to get his Six Nations campaign back on track after the dispiriting loss to Ireland.

  10. Edinburgh 17-22 Zebre: Three things we learnedpublished at 10:46 17 February

    Andrew Petrie
    BBC Sport Scotland

    Sam Skinner looks dejectedImage source, SNS

    Edinburgh run out of lives

    When Zebre's Guido Volpi was sent off for a dangerous high shot on Luke Crosbie, a cynic would have been forgiven for rolling their eyes.

    Edinburgh looked like they were going to get away with it again. With 10 minutes to play, they faced 13 men and their knack of scoring late tries this season suggested they would be able to make their numerical advantage count.

    However, they were met with a stern Zebre defence that held them up and then drove them down the pitch into their own territory, where the opposition try-line looked as far away as their play-off chances do now.

    The luck ran out. There would be no late heroes. Instead, it will be a long two weeks of bitter reflection.

    Where has the attack gone?

    It wasn't a huge surprise to see Ross Thompson hop down the M8 to his hometown in the summer, but eyebrows were raised when he replaced Ben Healy as Edinburgh's first-choice fly-half.

    Although Healy was the top points scorer in the URC last season, Edinburgh's attack looked blunt at times and Thompson was brought in to be the panacea.

    It's not worked out like that. In one first-half passage of play, Thompson stood deep, then came flat, then stood deep. When none of that worked, he tried something off the cuff. That didn't work either.

    He's not helped by the men outside him, running the same side-to-side lines with very little meaningful crash ball options.

    Mosese Tuipulotu has impressed individually, but he and Thompson seem to be on completely different wavelengths.

    Fragile Boffelli breaks down again

    One of Edinburgh's biggest names made his first start of the season, but Argentina star Emiliano Boffelli came off with a knock in the 43rd minute.

    Sadly, he is just not reliable and represents the biggest problem at Edinburgh - the big stars are not proving their weight in gold.

    The stagnation and decline of the team since Sean Everitt took over has become alarming. There is little to no obvious progression, with the exception of a few more youngsters getting a shot.

    However, the talented trio of Tom Currie, Liam McConnell, and Freddy Douglas need leaders to drag them up to the level required and right now, they have nowhere to turn.

  11. 'A new low' for Edinburgh while Smith leaving 'feels more and more inevitable'published at 10:13 17 February

    Your views

    It was a dramatic weekend in Scottish rugby as Edinburgh lost to lowly Zebre at home and, while Glasgow beat the Dragons, there was plenty of speculation about Franco Smith and the vacant Wales post, after he said he "would like to coach international rugby again"...

    EDINBURGH

    Darwin: Surely there can be no more excuses? The coach has to go. Edinburgh are in total free fall. What will it be like when they face a top side in the URC? I dread to think!

    OV: An absolute shambles of a performance against a very limited team. We were utterly, utterly rank rotten, and have been pretty much all season. I'll be giving some serious thought to a season ticket at Scotstoun next year. Edinburgh are a painful watch these days.

    Alan: The squad is talented but being at Edinburgh seems to bleed them of their abilities. They were bad against Zebre but it's now no surprise. Maybe now they can stop pretending that they're not in a crisis.

    Neil: This feels like a new low, even for the most ardent of us season ticket holders. It's so hard to keep the faith and hold out much hope for the future, when week in, week out it's pretty much all the same. No flair. No clear gameplay. Slow and ponderous. There's nothing much to hang our hopes on.

    GLASGOW & FRANCO SMITH

    George: Franco needs to be given the Scotland job, he's too good a coach to be let go. He's brought through so many players when a year or two ago there were genuine fears no young players were coming. Every player has improved under him and has a mental edge that is sorely lacking in the Scottish team at the moment

    Michael: Glasgow's strength-in-depth is beginning to show in these fixtures. the only slight concern is the reliance on old-hand Duncan Weir who, whilst excellent today, will not be with us next season. The opportunity to blood a new fly-half was there and needs to happen sooner, rather than later.

    Ben: Despite our injury struggles, we have a relatively straightforward run-in and look in very good place for securing second in the table. It's hard to get too excited though, when Franco leaving is feeling more and more inevitable. Give us one more year Franco!

    Monkfish: Smith has been excellent for Glasgow. Not surprised he's looking at another crack at an international job. But while all the attention's on the Wales vacancy, would he be in the running for Australia? Can't see the SRU pulling the plug on Townsend.

  12. Glasgow boss Smith keen on international jobpublished at 19:28 16 February

    Franco SmithImage source, Getty Images

    Glasgow head coach Franco Smith has admitted he "would like to coach international rugby again" amid links with the vacant Wales job.

    Former Italy boss Smith, who steered Glasgow to the URC title last season, was asked about his future before his side's 45-20 win at Dragons.

    "I would like to coach international rugby again," Smith told Premier Sports.

    "Most coaches dream of it. For now, I'm just focused on what's got to be done today. I'm still under contract with the Glasgow Warriors. You never know."

    On the win, he said post match: "We were inaccurate. if you don't play week after week, a bit of rust accumulates. We've got boys out for two weeks who didn't play and they were just off it.

    "[At half-time] We looked at what we needed to do better and the boys responded fantastically."

    On Jack Mann's player-of-the-match performance, he added: "Jack wants to play in the Six Nations now. He's close, he's in the group, he's playing well.

    "Everybody in the team had some individual motivation. He stepped up at the right time and proved he can play at the next level."

  13. Dragons 20-45 Glasgow Warriors: Have your saypublished at 18:01 16 February

    Have your say

    Glasgow strengthened their second position in the URC table as they ran in seven tries in a convincing 45-20 demolition of bottom side Dragons.

    Johnny Matthews, player of the match Jack Mann, George Horne and Duncan Weir all scored in a second-quarter blitz.

    What did you make of the match, Glasgow fans? Who impressed you?

    And what did you make of Franco Smith's pre-match comments?

    Let us know your thoughts here., external

  14. Glasgow beat Edinburgh for first Celtic Challenge winpublished at 19:50 15 February

    Glasgow celebrate their first winImage source, SNS

    Glasgow Warriors (19) 36

    Tries: Bell, McDonald, Yeomans, Evans, Norval, McNamara Cons: McNamara 3

    Edinburgh (12) 17

    Tries: MacRae, Ronald, Gunderson Cons: MacRae

    Glasgow Warriors secured their first ever win in the Celtic Challenge Cup as they defeated rivals Edinburgh 36-17 at Scotstoun.

    First-half tries from Gemma Bell, Scotland international Mairi McDonald and Kate Yeomans had the hosts in front at the break, despite efforts from Lucy MacRae and Aila Ronald.

    With a 19-12 half-time lead, Glasgow enjoyed the better of the second half too with Abi Evans, debutant Emily Norval, and player of the match Briar McNamara dotting down.

    Merryn Gunderson did score late for the visitors, but it was not enough to save them from a fifth defeat in succession.

  15. 'Problem child Edinburgh an early test for Nucifora'published at 13:03 15 February

    Tom English
    BBC Scotland's chief sports writer

    Behind the mic

    Of all the troubling losses Edinburgh have suffered in the United Rugby Championship in recent seasons, and in a very stiff field, their defeat to Zebre on Friday night was a challenger for the most 'Edinburgh' of the lot.

    Zebre were reduced to 14 men after 67 minutes and then got a red card in the 71st minute. So, against 14 players for seven minutes and against 13 for six minutes, Edinburgh still couldn't get the try that would have levelled the contest.

    Their efforts - slow and plodding and utterly without conviction or invention - might have made their supporters cringe. Zebre had little bother repelling an attack so one-dimensional it made you wonder what on earth they do all week in training.

    True, Edinburgh were missing important international players, but this kind of mishap hardly dropped out of the sky. This has been the way of it at Edinburgh for way too long.

    Tenth last season and 12th the season before puts paid to the missing Test players argument. Even when they've had them they haven't been good enough to achieve the bare minimum of top eight in the league, a modest target for a squad funded to the tune of about £6m a season.

    Zebre are improving. They've now won back-to-back away games which brings their total wins in this season's URC to four - double the number they managed in the three seasons before.

    Edinburgh were, of course, kindly hosts. They didn't have some frontliners, but they had six of Gregor Townsend's current Six Nations squad plus Hamish Watson, Ali Price, and their player of the year last season, Wes Goosen. The 50-cap Puma Emiliano Boffelli was also back from injury, 15 of their 23 have played Test rugby.

    The defeat will see Edinburgh drop out of the play-off spots by the end of the weekend. The black sheep of the SRU family, they've been nothing but trouble. No coach can seem to fire them up. Sean Everitt is toiling horribly, just as others toiled before him.

    Douglas Struth is managing director of Edinburgh, but the power lies above him. This is an early test for new SRU chief executive Alex Williamson and new performance director David Nucifora.

    They're not long in the building but five minutes observing the scene will have told them change is needed at Edinburgh. When you've only got two teams in the URC, Scottish Rugby cannot afford one of them to be a serial, and expensive, failure.

    This falls into Nucifora's remit. When he first arrived in Scotland he gave a press conference outlining, in vague terms, what he hoped to achieve in the role. Since then, he's been announced on the Lions management ticket. He'll be gone for the summer. It's hardly a statement of intent in his new position.

    If he's the SRU's performance director then you might have expected him to be with Scotland on their summer tour, but no.

    Everything seems to be on the drift at Murrayfield right now. Scotland are facing a game to save their season at Twickenham next Saturday, the Under-20s are zero from two, Edinburgh have relapsed into dreary mediocrity under Everitt and even the one shining light, Glasgow, have some alarm bells ringing.

    Franco Smith, the stellar coach who led them to URC glory last season, is high in the betting to succeed Warren Gatland at Wales. He's also been heavily linked with Leicester.

    Glasgow and SRU sources become coy when asked about the Leicester connection. Smith, they say, has another year left on his contract and they will fight hard to keep him.

    No doubt they will, but the Leicester chat is not going away. Wales? It's hard to see Smith going back to international coaching given the day-to-day stuff is what floats his boat the most. But every Warrior should be worried until the Leicester thing is put to bed.

    Smith cannot be impressed with the Warriors allowing Tom Jordan and Jack Mann to leave and it would be a surprise if there weren't approaches for some of the other fine young players Smith has cultivated.

    Edinburgh is the big issue, though. They're going nowhere, only up and down, bobbing along without direction. Everitt is a good man, but it's not happening for him. This goes deeper than a coach, but the rebuild has to start somewhere.

    The new leadership at Murrayfield - Nucifora, primarily - had better start coming up with ways of helping the problem child, presuming there's time amid all that Lions planning that needs to be done.

    Edinburgh have lost seven of their 11 URC outings this seasonImage source, SNS
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    Edinburgh have lost seven of their 11 URC outings this season

  16. Edinburgh 17-22 Zebre: Have your saypublished at 21:54 14 February

    Have your say

    Edinburgh's loss to Zebre was another low in a disappointing season for Sean Everitt's side, as the capital club were outclassed by their visitors at the Hive.

    What did you make of the game? Where did it go wrong for Edinburgh?

    Were there any positives to take? What must Everitt do now?

    Let us know your thoughts here., external

  17. Edinburgh 17-22 Zebre: What Everitt saidpublished at 21:51 14 February

    Sean EverittImage source, SNS

    Edinburgh coach Sean Everitt told Premier Sports: "They put us under pressure, it's not something that we didn't prepare for. We lost the physicality battle, especially at the breakdown.

    "If you look at the stats, we had 150 rucks to their 60-odd. They managed to put us under pressure there. We couldn't play, so credit to them - the passion they showed and the physicality they showed. They scored a good maul try against us and we take pride in our maul.

    "It didn't happen this evening so back to the drawing board for Edinburgh.

    "Something you can't measure is passion. There were a lot of guys who tried hard out there. Luke Crosbie was outstanding tonight. We'll have to go back and have a look at it.

    "It's a contact sport and if you don't win the contact, you're always going to be on the back-foot and we lost momentum there.

    "The Munster game becomes important. We're not dead in this competition, everyone is alive, but we need to pick ourselves up on Monday, work harder and start winning away from home.

    "We had enough time to prepare. Everyone is in the same position. The Italians also play in the Six Nations. We have to look at ourselves."