'We'll protect pensioners who need protection,' says Starmerpublished at 07:48 British Summer Time 25 September
BBC Breakfast's Sally Nugent then asks Starmer what his message is to pensioners frightened about paying their fuel bills this winter.
"My message is, we'll protect pensioners who need protection through pension credit," he replies.
Every pensioner will be better off "year on year" as the government will stick to the triple lock, he adds.
Starmer says that pensioners received a £900 increase in their state pension this year and will receive a £460 increase next year.
"By taking this decision to stabilize the economy, that triple lock is a cast iron guarantee," he says.