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"It's a battle of minds."

  1. What's coming up? Newcastle success and Champions League build-uppublished at 12:27 British Summer Time 8 April

    There's lots more still to discuss so stay with us this afternoon. Here's what you can look forward to:

    • Although Leicester's season has been poor, Newcastle are suddenly flying. We'll be looking at the recent run of Eddie Howe's team after they made history by winning the Carabao Cup
    • Could Champions League football be on the horizon for the Magpies as they currently sit in a top-five position?
    • A huge night awaits in the Champions League at the Emirates Stadium as Arsenal take on Real Madrid. Do the Gunners stand a chance against the 15 time winners? We'll have all the build-up later on

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  2. What have we been discussing? This morning's recappublished at 12:22 British Summer Time 8 April

    Good afternoon! If you are just joining us, we have been discussing Leicester's defeat last night; how clubs can stay longer in the Premier League without being relegated again and the possibility of a second Premier League:

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    Get Involvedpublished at 12:17 British Summer Time 8 April

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    Whether it's the odious VAR, more and more substitutes, skewed TV deals, abolishing Cup replays or expanding lucrative European competitions, football continues to do everything it can to make life easier for the bigger clubs. By virtue, the upper echelons of the game are becoming more and more of a closed shop - yet too often these reforms are cheered on or given tacit support by fans. Football needs a revolution.

    Chris O'Brien, Cardiff

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    Get Involvedpublished at 12:13 British Summer Time 8 April

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    Michael, Formby:Re Steve at 11:56. This notion of the Big Six Rules is nonsense. First of all any PL rule has to be passed by 14 clubs. If the big 6 were in charge you can guarantee they would want more TV money as an example. The issue is actually the "middle" teams, who are too good to go down, but not good enough to challenge. They make a lot of money by being in the PL and would never ever vote to change that. And if we are being honest, as would Leicester, if they were in that position.

  5. 'Van Nistelrooy is fortunate the fans have slipped into apathy'published at 12:07 British Summer Time 8 April

    Leicester 0-3 Newcastle

    Nick Mashiter
    BBC Sport football news reporter

    Van Nistelrooy's honesty had been welcomed by the squad and his methods, along with assistant Brian Barry-Murphy, were refreshing, but it has not worked.

    After a season at PSV and four games as Manchester United caretaker, Van Nistelrooy may have put the time in at youth level and as a national coach with the Netherlands but he has been unable to prove himself at Leicester.

    The Foxes gambled having fired Steve Cooper when they were 16th in the table in November, the former manager's reputation remaining intact as Leicester were far more competitive under him.

    Van Nistelrooy is fortunate the fans have slipped into apathy, feeling disconnected with a club where the hierarchy rarely speaks to them.

    Supporters are so resigned they have not had the energy to turn on him, instead focusing their attention on director of football Jon Rudkin.

    They view him as central to the decline of the club and, after what will be a damaging relegation, change looks to be needed at the King Power Stadium.

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    Get Involvedpublished at 12:02 British Summer Time 8 April

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    Hello, as a lifelong Brentford FC fan, and season ticket holder, I appreciate how difficult it is to progress from the Championship to the Premier League and then stay in the Prem. The Bees are amongst the lowest funded teams in the Prem, and we know we have to develop players and sell them at good profit to survive in the League. Matthew Benham as our owner is superb and puts his football club first as he was a fan before becoming our owner. We can’t afford the depth of squad to cover the injuries to first team players we’ve suffered over the last two seasons, but Thomas Frank and his team find solutions with the resources and players they have available. There is immense respect between the fans, the players and the coaching staff which shows through every home game. The whole team give their best every week on the pitch which is what the fans want to see. I said to my son when we got promoted to the Prem, let’s enjoy this time whatever happens. And here we are safe for a 5th season in the Premier League. Wow. I’m still dreaming. It’s a great time to be a Brentford fan. It wasn’t that long ago we were battling at the bottom of League Two to avoid relegation. C’mon you Bees.

    Matt, a Bees fan from Fleet in Hampshire

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    Get Involvedpublished at 11:56 British Summer Time 8 April

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    I've been supporting Leicester for over 40 years now, and I can't decide which makes me feel worse about the future. It's either the board who appear to me clueless, or "The Big Six Fix" Premier League rules which make it impossible for clubs like us to really invest in a club, or even to retain out best players for that matter. When I started supporting, football was a sport, but it just doesn't feel that way any more, it's just business. I'm starting to wonder how much longer I will care.

    Steve, Cambridge

  8. Postpublished at 11:53 British Summer Time 8 April

    Imagine that eh? No League Cup.

    It means Newcastle wouldn't have had their day in the sun last month and we'd have never had that live page full of dog pictures.

    It doesn't bear thinking about.

  9. What was Project Big Picture?published at 11:51 British Summer Time 8 April

    Eddie Howe lifting the EFL CupImage source, Getty Images

    In 2020, Premier League clubs "unanimously agreed" that 'Project Big Picture' will not be "endorsed or pursued".

    The controversial plans, proposed by Liverpool and Manchester United, were rejected at a meeting of the 20 clubs in England's top flight.

    What was proposed?

    • The Premier League cut from 20 to 18 clubs, with the Championship, League One and League Two each retaining 24 teams.
    • The bottom two teams in the Premier League relegated automatically with the 16th-placed team joining the Championship play-offs.
    • The League Cup and Community Shield abolished.
    • Parachute payments scrapped.
    • A £250m rescue fund made immediately available to the EFL & 25% of all future TV deals.
    • £100m paid to the FA to make up for lost revenue.
    • Nine clubs given 'special voting rights' on certain issues, based on their long time in the Premier League.
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    Get Involvedpublished at 11:46 British Summer Time 8 April

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    It is difficult to stay in the Premier League once promoted, but it isn’t impossible. The league is littered with teams that have come up, stayed up and established themselves in the top flight. Bournemouth, Brighton, Fulham, Palace, Brentford to name a few. The ones this year and last have just recruited poorly and made daft decisions over the managers.

    Pat, Annan

  11. 'An established middle class in the Premier League'published at 11:41 British Summer Time 8 April

    Kieran Maguire
    Football finance expert on BBC Radio 5 Live

    We have an established middle class in the Premier League with teams such as Crystal Palace, Brighton and Brentford. Five years ago, teams coming up were competing with seven or eight teams to go down. That pool has declined significantly. Even if a team is spending big money by their standards, the money is low in the eyes of the Premier League unless you are prepared to invest in both wages and transfer fees.

    On Parachute payments: The purpose was to allow the teams that were coming up to offer better terms and therefore have a shot at establishing themselves. Teams like Brighton and Brentford have been successful in doing that. The problem with this in the Championship is that clubs are getting more than others. At present, the clubs at the top such as Burnley, Sheffield United and Leeds are well ahead of the group and these teams have all been relegated in the last few seasons.

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    Get Involvedpublished at 11:36 British Summer Time 8 April

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    I genuinely believe the worst thing to happen to the Premier League as a competition is when we (Leicester) won it. The gap has widened ever since that season. It feels like that was the moment where the big clubs, and to some extent the league, decided that a season like that can’t happen again. Take this season, Forest have been unbelievable but are still 16 points from the top. P.S. Just a goal before the end of the season would be nice now!

    Joe, Leicester

  13. Van Nistelrooy 'swerved questions' on his futurepublished at 11:30 British Summer Time 8 April

    Leicester 0-3 Newcastle

    Nick Mashiter
    BBC Sport football news reporter

    It is a matter of when and not if Leicester return to the Championship after a season which has lurched from crisis to desperation.

    Eight straight defeats without scoring, no home league goals since 8 December and 15 points adrift of safety with 21 left available.

    Monday's 3-0 defeat to Newcastle leaves them staring at the drop, which could come as early as Easter Sunday when they host leaders Liverpool.

    Even with seven games left the post mortem of the season can already start with Ruud Van Nistelrooy's future the first topic on the agenda.

    He swerved questions about it after the game, only saying: "The most important thing is the club and these players, that's what I would say for now."

  14. 'Russell Martin was better than Southampton'published at 11:25 British Summer Time 8 April

    Jason Burt
    Telegraph journalist on BBC Radio 5 Live

    A good manager makes a huge difference. I rate Russell Martin very highly and he is a better manager than Southampton. He tried to implement a style that the players weren’t good enough to play. You could argue that he put himself first in doing that, by not changing his style.

    A good manager has got a very clear and practical way of playing. You have to implement your style with the players you have. That’s why Manchester United are suffering so badly at the moment under Ruben Amorim.

    A best measure of managerial success is – Is that player better than when they came to that club? Has the manager improved that player? Pep Guardiola is one of the best measures of that, he improves players no matter what the price tag.

  15. Radrizzani's 2018 'Premier League 2' pleapublished at 11:21 British Summer Time 8 April

    Leeds United chairman Andrea Radrizzani in 2022.Image source, Getty Images

    In 2018, former Leeds United owner Andrea Radrizzani called for the creation of a 'Premier League 2' to help Championship clubs receive more television revenue.

    "We lose money and we are creating a show that is high-interest for everybody," said Radrizzani.

    The Italian claimed clubs like Leeds being "watched by 500,000-600,000 people live on Sky" but only getting £2m-£2.5m from the league for having their games televised - the rest made up via the EFL - "actually penalises us".

    "We're always on TV, maybe more than 20 times. It doesn't work," he added.

    At the time Radrizzani said that he was yet to discuss the idea of a 'Premier League 2' with other owners of Championship clubs, but believed there was a consensus for change.

    "I think the other chairmen would love to open a conversation," he said.

    "The time is getting ready to consider what to do to move forward so we don't have a crisis every two years when a club go bankrupt or changes ownership every other year."

  16. What we're discussing? Life at the bottom of the Premier Leaguepublished at 11:16 British Summer Time 8 April

    Hello if you are just joining us! We are discussing what life is like at the bottom of the Premier League for newly promoted clubs and how do clubs avoid bouncing straight back down:

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  17. What is Premier League 2?published at 11:11 British Summer Time 8 April

    Premier League 2 already exists, but not in the format reader Adam was suggesting.

    At this current moment, Premier League 2 is essentially an Under-21s league used for developing talent.

    The official Premier League website describes the competition as "an essential part of the suite of competitive experiences available to players in the Professional Development Phase."

    It adds: "Its aim is to expose players to the rigours and challenges of senior football, while retaining a development focus."

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    Get Involvedpublished at 11:06 British Summer Time 8 April

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    A Premier League 2 would be a great idea - take teams from the bottom of the Premier League and top of the Championship to create it. This would reduce the number of league fixtures in a season solving a problem that keeps coming up every year.

    Luke, Wrexham

  19. 'A complacency and arrogance about Leicester'published at 10:59 British Summer Time 8 April

    Kieran Maguire
    Football finance expert

    Leicester have got themselves into a pickle. They seem to have budgeted to finish eighth in the Premier League each season.

    They are the only club in the history of the Premier League to have paid more money out in wages than they have brought in in revenue, which is not a trophy that you want to wear. There were errors made and a complacency and arrogance about the club and they had the attitude that relegation was impossible. That is always a risk and often can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

  20. A choice of viewing...published at 10:52 British Summer Time 8 April

    Remember, you can watch Nicky Campbell's BBC Radio 5Live show at the top of this page on Life at the bottom of the Premier League.

    But if you maybe want some more positivity on your Tuesday, you can watch The Football News Show as they build-up to this week's Champions League quarter-finals. Click on the 'Watch & Listen' tab on this page.