Postpublished at 13:51 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
Back to the dessert chat.
Someone has text in to say "if you have to use cutlery it's a dessert".
Agree or not? Hit the thumbs.
Summary
Persistent rain on day five ensures fourth Test ends in draw
Australia have retained the Ashes
Tourists will take 2-1 lead into final Test at The Oval
Postpublished at 13:51 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
Postpublished at 13:47 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
We're 1.8 miles away from Old Trafford if you walk apparently.
I've been corrected by four colleagues already.
Either way, it's raining here, it's raining there.
We're struggling for any imminent prospects of play.
View from the press boxpublished at 13:45 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
Jarrod Kimber: The England team has finally left the field. They tried to vibes the clouds away.
Postpublished at 13:42 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
Matthew Henry
BBC Sport at Old TraffordThe England players are heading in after their football. Ben Duckett looks like he’s been in the shower.
Postpublished at 13:40 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
We are about three miles from Old Trafford in our office and the rain is currently as heavy as it has been all day.
The signs are not promising.
Postpublished at 13:35 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
There's also build-up to the Hungarian Grand Prix. Lights out at 14:00 BST.
There's Challenge Cup semi-finals today too.
If you're going to open any of those please do so in another tab, and don't leave us.
Raining on the Wirral but live sport happeningpublished at 13:33 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
The Open, final round
Peter Scrivener
BBC Sport at Royal Liverpool
Image source, Getty ImagesWhile the (Australian) boys in white are cooped up in their dressing rooms presumably eating trifle and cookies, Rory McIlroy is teeing off on the first at Royal Liverpool in horrible driving rain.
He's not going to win the 151st Open Championship on the Wirral - he's starting the final round nine shots behind the leader Brian Harman - but there are others who could hunt down the American.
Postpublished at 13:29 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
I have opened a very big can of worms here.
We've had messages about ice cream and cheese and biscuits now.
What have I done!?!
Postpublished at 13:25 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
Exactly my point Matt.
Someone then said by that logic chocolate could be a dessert.
So I've added *and baked to the criteria.
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Anything is a dessert if it’s sweet and you eat it after a main meal.
Matt @ Old Trafford
Postpublished at 13:21 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
Matthew Henry
BBC Sport at Old TraffordA group of England players are still playing with their football on the outfield in the rain. They're getting soaked.
Postpublished at 13:18 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
There are no updates to bring you from Old Trafford.
It's still raining.
If anything changes we will obviously let you know.
Postpublished at 13:14 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
Another member of the team tried to claim cake wasn't a dessert earlier too.
They had to quickly back down when they searched "dessert classification" and it was top of the list.
Postpublished at 13:11 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
The cookie chat has ended up in a group chat I'm in too.
Some are saying it's a snack.
Another is claiming it's a biscuit.
A four pack of cookies is not a biscuit. That's a poor shout.
Postpublished at 13:05 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
We're now debating if a cookie is a dessert or not.
I'm keen for you to decide.
Thumbs up for yes, thumbs down for no.
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Ash Hague: Cricket must look absolutely ridiculous to those looking in. Taking teams off before 90 overs are bowled in good weather, not starting early on the good days when you always lose time later, and of course they must have a full lunch.
Postpublished at 12:56 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
Matthew Henry
BBC Sport at Old TraffordEngland's players have still been persisting with their warm-ups through the lightest drizzle. A message to the Australians?
Postpublished at 12:52 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
Some of you are annoyed that I didn't include Marnus Labuschagne's century edit earlier when I posted some clips to fill the time.
Here it is.
Enjoy.
Postpublished at 12:48 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
Matthew Henry
BBC Sport at Old TraffordI reckon the rain has just about stopped.
Postpublished at 12:46 British Summer Time 23 July 2023
Jonathan Agnew
BBC cricket correspondent on Test Match SpecialThere are still umbrellas out there and the covers are still on. One team is out there pretending everything is fine and the other team is not to be seen. Can you guess who it is?
It is drizzling, I'm afraid. It looks really unlikely that we will have a start time of 13:00 BST.