Summary

  • Second reading for Scotland Bill

  • Scottish budget cut 'not as bad'

  • Sturgeon begins visit to New York

  1. Readers reaction on twitterpublished at 17:46 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Chris Bradley:, external Strong speech by Ian Murray; debunking #SNP myths about #ScotlandBill and showing how Labour will work to strengthen it

    Mark Fleming:, external Now that Ian Murray has stopped talking hopefully that's the last time I have to hear the word "chunter" #ScotlandBill

    jacqui: , externalNice to see the Labour benches busy for a change, if only to wail "what about meee" #ScotlandBill

  2. 'Putting SNP on the spot'published at 17:45 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Mr Murray has now finished speaking.

    Deputy Speaker Eleanor Laing has now taken over from John Bercow. She says that backbencher speeches must be limited to eight minutes due to time constraints.

    Bernard Jenkin

    First up is Bernard Jenkin, Conservative MP for Harwich and North Essex. He says that Ian Murray did the House a great service by "putting the SNP on the spot" over Full Fiscal Autonomy.

    He reiterates the challenge, saying he will only give way to Alex Salmond if he will state his commitment to the policy.

  3. 'Double devolution'published at 17:40 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    In response to a question from Andrew Gwynne, Mr Murray says he would like to see "double devolution" - devolving more power from Westminster to Holyrood, and then from Holyrood to local councils in Scotland.

    He says Holyrood has become one of the "most centralised" administrations in the world.

  4. 'Bring amendment'published at 17:37 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Mr Murray continues his attack on the SNP.

    ian murray

    He says the SNP don't really want to talk about full fiscal autonomy.

    "The picture is not clear, and the Scottish people deserve an answer on this broken promise," he says.

    "They are unclear on the term because they are unclear on the policy," he adds.

    He challenges the SNP to bring forward an amendment on the matter.

  5. Full Fiscal Autonomypublished at 17:31 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Ian Murray says that the SNP seem to be "backpedalling" on full fiscal autonomy.

    He says he hopes that the House will be enlightened as to the SNP's position on the matter as the Bill progresses.

  6. BACKGROUND: Road to more devolved powerspublished at 17:30 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    What next for the UK?

    • During the election campaign Conservative leader David Cameron pledged to give more powers to Scotland within 100 days of winning.

    • For England, the UK government will change standing orders of the House of Commons - basically the rules that govern the way laws are passed - ensuring that only MPs representing English constituencies could vote on legislation affecting England alone.

    • In Wales, there will be further devolution of powers, including a new reserved powers model to clarify the division of powers between the Welsh Assembly and parliament.

    • There is no big devolved power heading to Northern Ireland.

  7. Salmond interventionpublished at 17:28 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Alex Salmond intervenes again, saying that he has not heard anything new from Ian Murray so far.

    He asks whether given Labour's defeat in Scotland at the general election, and given that Labour are currently re-evaluating many other aspects of the party, Mr Murray has anything new to offer.

    Pete Wishart also intervenes to back up Mr Salmond. He says he has heard nothing to suggest Labour are doing anything to address their "catastrophic" defeat at the general election.

    Mr Murray says that Mr Wishart has not listened to the last 15 minutes of his speech.

  8. 'Politics of grievance'published at 17:27 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Ian Murray says that Labour will always be the "party of devolution."

    He says that Scotland's place in the UK is "simply not enough" at the moment. He adds that the Bill is important because it will strengthen Scotland's place in the Union and sense of solidarity with the rest of the UK.

    He says what is now needed is the "political will and imagination" to deliver a fairer Scotland.

    Mr Murray takes a shot at the SNP, saying their priority seems to be "the politics of grievance and blame", and that the SNP seem "desperate to be disappointed" before the Bill has even passed.

  9. Via Twitterpublished at 17:26 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Eunis Jassemi:, external Great to see we have high quality #SNP MPs representing Scotland. #SNPfail #ScotlandBill

    Twitter screengrabImage source, Twitter

    Robbie:, external Ian Murray says nothing of substance different than Mundell. Except SNPBAD. #ScotlandBill

    Mark Coburn:, external David Mundell having a nightmare even in responding to MPs from other parties, outwith the SNP. #ScotlandBill #UnionUndoing

  10. Shadow Secretary of State for Scotlandpublished at 17:15 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Ian Murray

    Ian Murray, the shadow Secretary of State for Scotland, takes to the dispatch box now.

    He starts his speech by congratulating the Speaker and Mr Mundell on their re-election, and the SNP on their general election victory.

    He also pays tribute to his predecessor, Margaret Curran, who lost her seat.

    Mr Murray says that he and Mr Mundell have something in common - that they were easy choices for their respective jobs, a reference to them both being their party's only MPs in Scotland.

  11. 'Castro-esque' speechpublished at 17:13 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Nick Eardley
    BBC News

    Labour's Ian Murray describes David Mundell's speech on Scotland Bill as "Castro-esque". Presumably in length rather than content.

  12. New powerspublished at 17:12 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Concluding, Mr Mundell says a no vote for a referendum was not a vote for no change.

    He says the challenge now is for the Scottish government "needs to set out what it will do with its new powers." He says it is time to "stop acting and start doing."

  13. Have your say on Scotland Billpublished at 17:11 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Remember you can submit your views, external on the UK Government's Scotland Bill to Devolution (Further Powers) Committee, until 14 August 2015.

    Scotland Bill have you sayImage source, Scottish Government

    The Committee prefers to receive written submissions electronically and in a form accessible using Microsoft Word.

    Evidence should be reasonably brief and typewritten (preferably normally no more than 4-6 sides of A4 in total). These should be sent to devolutioncommittee@scottish.parliament.uk, external

  14. Who will pick up the bill?published at 17:09 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    In response to a question about who will pick up the bill if the Scottish Parliament overspends, Mr Mundell replies that it is the Scottish taxpayer who will pay.

  15. 'Final say' on welfarepublished at 17:09 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    In response to a question from Labour's Seema Malhotra, Mr Mundell says that it is fair to say the Scottish Parliament will have the "final say" on welfare.

    He says that although welfare benefits will be set at Westminster, the Scottish Parliament will have the option to "top them up."

    An SNP MP asks if this suggests that benefits are inadequate, if they need to be topped up.

    Mr Mundell replies that this it is "about being responsible".

  16. Prompt-sheet rumourpublished at 17:04 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    The SNP's Alex Salmond says there is a "rumour" going around that the Conservative members have been given a prompt sheet on questions to ask Mr Mundell.

    Bercow

    Speaker Bercow tells Mr Salmond that he always enjoys his dramatic performances in the Chamber, but that there would be nothing disorderly about it even if the rumour were true.

  17. Impact on north Englandpublished at 17:02 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Labour MP Andrew Gwynne asks about the impacts on the Scotland Bill changes on the rest of the UK. He singles out Air Passenger Duty (APD) and the effect this might have on regional airports in the north of England.

    Andrew Gwynne

    He says issues like these are why a constitutional convention is needed.

    Mr Mundell says that other members have raised APD as an issue, and that the Treasury has established a group to consider the matter.

  18. Reader reaction on twitterpublished at 17:00 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    Kitty:, external Here Alex Salmond goes again. Cut down by Bercow. Try asking something constructive for the benefit of your constituents #ScotlandBill

    Adam W:, external #ScotlandBill is the #Tories all over. Promise the earth & expect you to be grateful when they deliver a fraction of it. So predictable.

    Mr Malky:, external Can you go 5 years of this? Me neither #ScotlandBill

  19. Tax-raising powerspublished at 16:59 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    David Mundell says that the devolution of income tax, the allocation of half of VAT revenues raised in Scotland, and the devolution of Air Passenger Duty, mean that Holyrood will have "vitally important decisions" to make.

    He says that these powers will mean Holyrood will go from raising 10% of what it spends to 50%, and that this will make it one of the "most powerful devolved legislatures" in the world.

  20. SNP MPs: Tweeting from the chamberpublished at 16:57 British Summer Time 8 June 2015

    SNP MP Owen Thompson tweets:, external Mundell pledging to appease Daily Record readers was baffling and awkward, equally. Perhaps try the word electorate next time? #FYI

    While Natalie McGarry, SNP MP for Glasgow tweets:, external Being debated in the chamber is the second reading of the Scotland Bill. Mundell isn't absolutely clear on much.

    She continues: Fundamental misunderstanding on the Tory benches about the extent of powers offered.