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Analysis as Postecoglou succeeds Nuno at Forest

  1. Goodbyepublished at 15:29 BST 9 September

    Closed!

    And with that recap, we bring this page to a close.

    You can check out that below or the summary points at the top of the page for anything you may have missed today.

    Don't forget, amid all this madness, we've not even mentioned that England are taking on Serbia tonight in a World Cup qualifier.

    You can listen to that live from 19:00 on BBC Radio 5 Live this evening with kick-off at 19:45.

    We'll be back tomorrow morning to digest all of that, plus start our build-up to the Premier League campaign getting back under way!

    See you then.

  2. Recap: Tuesday's headlinespublished at 15:24 BST 9 September

    We've just entered the second week of September and we've already spent a full day talking about a management casualty in the Premier League.

    Football is back.

    You'd be forgiven for missing bits from today so here's a look at some of the best bits:

  3. Ange's record against Arsenalpublished at 15:19 BST 9 September

    Ange Postecoglou and Mikel ArtetaImage source, Getty Images

    As we've already touched on here, Ange Postecoglou's first game in charge of Nottingham Forest will come against Arsenal.

    And the Australian doesn't have the best record against the Gunners.

    In fact, he failed to win any of his previous four meetings while in charge of Spurs; losing three times and drawing once.

    They were close encounters, with all of Arsenal's victories being by a one goal margin.

    Ironically, Nottingham Forest's last four meetings against the Gunners had the same stat line; three defeats and one draw.

    Both Postecoglou and Forest are due a win, you would say...

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    Get Involved - 'MGW will be wishing he moved to Spurs'published at 15:16 BST 9 September

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    Laughable! Nevertheless, a great decision by the Forest owner....that's one less club we will need to worry about in terms of getting into Europe for next season! MGW will probably now be wishing that he had taken the opportunity to move to Tottenham!

    Everett

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    Get Involved - 'Forest are getting a special coach and human'published at 15:11 BST 9 September

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    Forest... You’re getting a v special coach and human. He took pure heat even after the worst injury crisis I’ve seen and still delivered. The bond he can create is unique, look at the outpouring of support from spurs players + fans once he was sacked. Key players in your squad will-flourish!

    Chris, Glasgow

  6. Marinakis to repeat history?published at 15:06 BST 9 September

    Olympiacos President Evangelos Marinakis embraces Olympiacos Manager Jose Luis MendilibarImage source, Getty Images

    Who was the last manager to win a European trophy in consecutive seasons?

    Olympiacos manager Jose Mendilibar won the Europa League with Sevilla in 2023, and then won the Conference League with Olympiacos in consecutive seasons.

    Who appointed Mendilibar? Marinakis.

    Could the Greek owner be looking to repeat history as Nottingham Forest attempt to win their first European trophy since 1980?

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    Get Involved - 'Marinakis dragged the club this far not Nuno'published at 15:02 BST 9 September

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    We did great under Nuno, until the final third of last season, then we began to slide, badly; had a disastrous pre-season; Nuno had his tantrum, and then we lost 0-3 to West Ham. It was Marinakis who dragged the club this far, not Nuno; now give Ange a chance.

    Cassandria, Stockport

  8. Dramatic change of style ahead for Forest?published at 14:59 BST 9 September

    Ben Ramsdale
    BBC Sport

    Switching Nuno Espirito Santo for Ange Postecoglou is far from a like-for-like change.

    The two couldn't be much further apart when it comes to their footballing philosophy.

    Large parts of Nottingham Forest's success under Nuno came with their patience and ability to sit back, soak up pressure and then catch teams on the break.

    It's how they were able to defeat Premier League champions Liverpool at Anfield and see off Manchester City at the City Ground.

    Nuno's side averaged 40.8% possession in Premier League games throughout 2024-25 with only Everton and Ipswich Town averaging less over the course of the season.

    Contrast that to Postecoglou's Tottenham who had the fifth most in the league with 54.8% and you have a huge difference in terms of what a manager is asking from his respective side.

    The Australian made it clear numerous times during his stint at Spurs that he would not change his style so the Forest players must be prepared for a change in philosophy coming their way.

    Will it be successful? We'll just have to wait and see...

  9. How will Forest players adapt to Postecoglou?published at 14:55 BST 9 September

    BBC Sport's football tactics correspondent Umir Irfan has analysed how the Nottingham Forest players will need to adapt to Ange Postecoglou's playing style, which differs to his predecessor Nuno Espirito Santo.

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    'There is a big change' - Umir Irfan on Postecoglou set to become Forest manager

  10. Postpublished at 14:49 BST 9 September

    Craig Nelson
    BBC Sport reporter

    Olly has encapsulated the argument many Tottenham fans made against Ange Postecoglou last season, before the Australian suddenly decided to compromise his tactics and they ended up winning a first trophy in 17 years.

    So Postecoglou has shown he can adapt in order to win trophies, but how will his new players adapt to him?

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    Get Involved - 'I pity Forest fans'published at 14:45 BST 9 September

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    As a Spurs fan, I pity Forest fans. Get ready to spend every weekend watching your team lose whilst the manager refuses to compromise on his flawed, losing tactics...

    Olly

  12. Weapons for Postecoglou at Forest, but also chinks in the armourpublished at 14:38 BST 9 September

    Nick Mashiter
    BBC Sport football news reporter

    There's no doubt, despite Nuno Espirito Santo's complaints, Nottingham Forest strengthened in the summer, spending £180m and breaking their transfer record.

    Omari Hutchinson's £37.5m move from Ipswich was a club record while James McAtee, Arnaud Kalimuendo and Dilane Bakwa all joined in deals worth around £30m.

    Forest's success was built on Nuno's counter-attacking style, allowing the opposition to have the ball, but Postecoglou's high press, possession-based game would be a real change at the City Ground.

    Nikola Milenkovic and Murillo have excelled under Nuno but, without additional cover and the chances of being exposed more often, will they fit a new style?

    Postecoglou took a more pragmatic approach in their Europa League semi-final second leg win at Bodo/Glimt in May, opting for safety first as Spurs threw a blanket on the game to ensure they progressed.

    So he can change when necessary, but there was not much evidence of that in the Premier League last season when Tottenham lost 22 of their 38 games, finishing 27 points behind Forest.

    McAtee, Morgan Gibbs-White, Elliot Anderson and Callum Hudson-Odoi all like to have the ball, while Ola Aina and Neco Williams like to get up from full-back. So there are weapons there for Postecoglou, but there could well be chinks in the armour going forward.

    Morgan Gibbs-WhiteImage source, Getty Images
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    Get Involved - why Forest should be wary of 'recent history'published at 14:34 BST 9 September

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    Ange seems a good guy and his teams play entertaining football. In other circumstances he might be a great get. But the recent history of managers who only play one way taking over a squad built to play a completely different way is, uh... not good.

    Tom in Cornwall

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    Get Involved - 'most underwhelming appointment in a very long time'published at 14:32 BST 9 September

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    As a Forest fan for nearly 50 years, this appointment is the most underwhelming in a very long time. The squad is the strongest in the Premier League era, the club has missed an opportunity to employ a coach that is tactically aligned with the current squad.

    Alan

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    Get Involved - 'sad day at Nottingham Forest'published at 14:31 BST 9 September

    It's a definite NO for getting Ange in! I'd rather Jose Mourinho came in and given total control of all football matters. Players should only be signed if the manager wants them, not a director of recruitment making the decisions. This is a sad day at Nottingham Forest.

    Mark

  16. Postpublished at 14:31 BST 9 September

    Craig Nelson
    BBC Sport reporter

    Neil is another reader calling for Ange Postecoglou to be given a chance. But opinions are polarised. Coming up is a selection of messages from those saddened by Nuno Espirito Santo's departure and the choice of his successor...

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    Get Involved - 'Give Ange a chance'published at 14:28 BST 9 September

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    Never forget that Nuno wasn’t successful at Spurs. Got to give Ange a chance. The squad at his disposal is strong. Our owner may be a little hot-headed but he’s no Daniel Levy and will back him to the hilt.

    Neil

  18. Ange’s love of scoring goalspublished at 14:22 BST 9 September

    Jordan Butler
    BBC Sport journalist

    “I love the joy goals bring,” said Ange Postecoglou in 2023. “I still think [scoring goals is] the best part of football, it goes beyond winning.

    “Sometimes you can win and not really enjoy a game, but never do you not enjoy [scoring] a goal.”

    Postecoglou’s sides are predominantly set up to win, but they are also designed to entertain and score goals.

    His 645 games in top-flight club management to date have produced a total of 1,249 goals at a rate of 1.9 a match.

    His Celtic team were unsurprisingly his most successful scorers and averaged 2.5 goals a game while Japanese side Yokohama F. Marinos scored at almost twice a game under his stewardship.

    Postecoglou’s Tottenham averaged 1.79 goals per match in all competitions during his two seasons at the club which falls just below his career average.

    By comparison, Nuno Espirito Santo’s Nottingham Forest scored 106 times in 73 games at a rate of 1.45 goals per fixture. The Portuguese averages 1.47 goals per game across his managerial career, a figure which is enhanced by fruitful spells in charge of Porto and Al-Ittihad and certainly reflects his more pragmatic nature.

    It remains to be seen whether Ange changes Forest’s style completely in the coming weeks, but one thing we can expect is his side to score more goals.

    Total goals scored under Ange Postecoglou in club football
  19. Postpublished at 14:21 BST 9 September

    Craig Nelson
    BBC Sport reporter

    Of course one way of winning over the fans is to build a winning team.

    And one way of doing that is to adopt the attitude - as the song goes - "we're going to score one more than you"...

  20. Postecoglou needs to win over sceptical fanbasepublished at 14:15 BST 9 September

    Nick Mashiter
    BBC Sport football news reporter

    Ange Postecoglou inherits solid foundations but has big shoes to fill at Nottingham Forest.

    He will first need to win over a sceptical fanbase who adored Nuno Espirito Santo for what he delivered during his 21-month spell.

    There was a real sense of unity under Nuno, even if that did appear to crumble during the summer and Nuno's subsequent statements criticising the club's slow transfer policy.

    But he brought European football back to the club for the first time in 30 years - building on the foundations predecessor Steve Cooper laid by leading them to the Premier League in 2022.

    Nuno's departure has naturally been met with sadness from supporters and Postecoglou will have to win them over quickly.

    Nuno Espirito SantoImage source, Getty Images