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Analysis as Postecoglou succeeds Nuno at Forest

  1. Postpublished at 12:50 British Summer Time

    Ben Ramsdale
    BBC Sport

    Fair point, Adam.

    We'll try and work a thumb poll around this one for you...

    Nottingham Forest fans, would you be OK with the appointment of Ange Postecoglou if it was not at the expense of Nuno Espirito Santo?

    Thumbs up if yes or thumbs down if you wouldn't want Ange Postecoglou under any circumstances.

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    Get Involvedpublished at 12:45 British Summer Time

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    @Ben 12:20 I suspect many downvotes are more to do with people's opinion of replacing Nuno, as opposed to a judgement on any successor.

    Adam in London

  3. Postecoglou's 2024-25 season by numberspublished at 12:40 British Summer Time

    Ange PostecoglouImage source, Getty Images

    Ange Postecoglou's second and final season for Spurs flatlined until their Europa League triumph, let's have a look at his numbers from the 2024-25 season across all competitions:

    • Matches: 60
    • Wins: 26
    • Draws: 8
    • Losses: 26
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    Get Involvedpublished at 12:35 British Summer Time

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    Ange can be successful if he changes his mantra, Marinakis has far less patience than Levy had and unless Ange gets off to a flyer he’ll be out by Christmas!

    Fergus in Inverness

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    Get Involvedpublished at 12:30 British Summer Time

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    Lots of things can, famously, be true at the same time. I’m not understanding why people can’t follow that Ange can be both a good manager and yet might still be a bad choice for Forest, given the club’s defensive strengths and success with an anti-Angeball philosophy.

    Andrew in Bologna

  6. Postecoglou's win percentage at Spurspublished at 12:25 British Summer Time

    Ange PostecoglouImage source, Getty Images

    It may have started brightly in the opening months of his debut season, but Postecoglou left Spurs with a 47% win percentage.

    That is lower than Antonio Conte (54%), Jose Mourinho (52%) and Mauricio Pochettino (55%) but, ironically, is the same as Nuno Espirito Santo.

    Even though Europa League glory was achieved in May, it is Spurs' domestic record in 2024-25 which cost Postecoglou his job.

    Only the three relegated clubs - Southampton (30), Leicester (25) and Ipswich (24) - lost more league games than Spurs in 2024-25. In fact, their 22 losses is the most ever by a team that has avoided relegation in a 38-game Premier League campaign.

  7. Postpublished at 12:20 British Summer Time

    Ben Ramsdale
    BBC Sport

    Some serious thumbs downing going on on this page today.

    I'm starting to think it was something I said...

    In all seriousness though, every post with regard to Ange Postecoglou seems to be getting heavily disliked.

    Contrast that to the live page we did when he was sacked from Tottenham and there was a lot of sympathy for him and many Spurs fans were very angry at the decision to sack the Australian.

    Funny old game is football.

  8. Watch: Analysis as Postecoglou closes in on Forest jobpublished at 12:15 British Summer Time

    Olly Foster is joined by BBC Sport's senior football correspondent Sami Mokbel, football tactics correspondent Umir Irfan, Greek journalist Giannis Chorianopoulos and Nottingham Forest fan Saveena Johal to analyse Nuno Espirito Santo's departure and imminent arrival of Ange Postecoglou.

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    Ange Postecoglou poised to replace Nuno Espirito Santo at Nottingham Forest

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    Get Involved - 'They didn't want Nuno, and he did well'published at 12:10 British Summer Time

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    You'd think Ange hadn't cleaned up at Celtic, hadn't won the Asian Cup with Australia, hadn't won Tottenham a trophy and finished fifth in the EPL before the worst injury crisis ever. They didn't want Nuno either when he got the job and he did well.

    Steven

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    Get Involved - 'Remember how he got on with a fit squad?'published at 12:05 British Summer Time

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    Ange won the Europa League with a heavily depleted team. That was his goal. No first choice and second choice defenders through much of the season, protected players for cup. Remember how he got on with a fit squad? Manager of the month first two months of the season, top of league in October.

    Brian

  11. Recap: Postecoglou set for Forest jobpublished at 12:00 British Summer Time

    In case you're just joining us, we're bringing you all the latest as former Tottenham Hotspur boss Ange Postecoglou is set to take the reins at Nottingham Forest.

    Forest parted ways with Nuno Espirito Santo in the early hours of Tuesday morning.

    Here are the top lines:

  12. Nuno’s early dismissal – where does it rank?published at 11:55 British Summer Time

    Jordan Butler
    BBC Sport journalist

    Nuno Espirito Santo is the newest member of a very exclusive and undesirable club.

    The Portuguese is just the sixth permanent manager to leave their post three games into a Premier League season.

    Kenny Dalglish and Paul Sturrock were each replaced after only two matches and no manager has lost their job earlier in a Premier League season than Sturrock, who lasted nine days of the 2004-05 campaign at Southampton.

    Tottenham manager Christian Gross was fired after three games in 1998 with the club’s then chairman Lord Alan Sugar blaming the media for destroying his reputation.

    It is also worth noting that Alan Curbishley and Kevin Keegan both resigned, meaning that just four permanent managers have been sacked this early into a Premier League campaign.

    A list of the six managers to leave their jobs at Premier League clubs just three games into a new season
  13. 'I was surprised also'published at 11:51 British Summer Time

    Sean Byrne
    Journalism Researcher

    Nuno Espirito Santo looks onImage source, Getty Images

    Nuno Espirito Santo spoke to BBC Radio Nottingham last month about reports of him being sacked, and admitted he was surprised to see the stories.

    He said: "I woke up at nine o'clock and I was surprised also.

    "I didn't [hear] anything except from the press. Nothing has been said to me."

    He also had this to say on what his emotions would be like on the day he did leave the club: "One of the things that, no matter where I went and I was working is - if something happens, and the day that I leave I look back and, are the players better now than when I arrived? I think honestly, this is the case."

    I don't think many fans would disagree that the club are in a far greater position then when Nuno took charge in December 2023...

  14. Postpublished at 11:49 British Summer Time

    Craig Nelson
    BBC Sport reporter

    Umir, in his comments, does hint at the possibility that Nottingham Forest could have been changing the structure of the squad throughout the summer with a view to refreshing their playing style - with or without the manager's consent

    Maybe that shift from Nuno Espirito Santo's tactics to something different was already under way behind the scenes?

    Needless to say, something changed in the Portuguese manager's outlook.

    He was not a happy man towards the end, but did he see this move coming?

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    Get Involved - 'Forest had amazing season hitting teams on the break'published at 11:45 British Summer Time

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    Forest had an amazing season being defensive and hitting teams on the break. Can Ange do that? If not they will have to break up a really successful team.

    Richard

  16. 'Tactically, Nuno was strong'published at 11:40 British Summer Time

    Umir Irfan
    Football tactics correspondent

    Tactically, Nuno was strong. At all the clubs he has been at, he's shown the ability to raise a squad.

    I think he was really impressive last season. With any owner and fans, there's this hope that you become a really attacking and exciting, ball-dominating side.

    There's two parts to it. There's the relationship with the owner, but also the fact Nottingham Forest want to be more exciting, and ball-dominating.

    Some of the signings they have made show a change of intent at Nottingham Forest.

    Nuno Espirito Santo on the touchline at the City GroundImage source, Getty Images
  17. Postecoglou arrives at Forest training groundpublished at 11:36 British Summer Time

    We are going to assess just what Nuno Espirito Santo's legacy could be at Nottingham Forest in a moment.

    But just to bring you up to speed, Sky Sports News have just shown a clip of Ange Postecoglou arriving at the Nottingham Forest training ground.

    All things seem to be suggesting an announcement could be on the way...

  18. 'Nuno's legacy is cemented'published at 11:34 British Summer Time

    Sami Mokbel
    BBC Sport Senior football correspondent

    Nuno's legacy there [Nottingham Forest] is cemented, the fans adore Nuno. For what he achieved last season, a wonderful journey for the club and the supporters.

    He will be really well remembered, but football is cut-throat. Sometimes relationships don't fit internally at the club, and we know what the consequences are.

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    Get Involved - 'I don't want Ange anywhere near'published at 11:29 British Summer Time

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    As a Derby fan I’m buzzing. Ange nearly got Spurs relegated, I can only imagine how much he’ll ruin Nottingham Forest

    Rob in Derbyshire

    Please, please, please NO. This is exactly the kind of dumb self-sabotage I’d hoped, as a club, we’d moved away from. I don’t want Ange anywhere near Nottingham Forest. He made that Spurs side a laughing stock and will do the same to us. WHY?

    James in South London

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  20. How 'word spread' through Forest squadpublished at 11:26 British Summer Time

    Nick Mashiter
    BBC Sport football news reporter

    Nottingham Forest's players have been caught by surprise by Nuno's departure.

    Many of them are on international duty and not due back for training until later this week, ahead of Saturday's trip to Arsenal.

    But word spread with some players hearing the news from other members of the squad.