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Celtic fan Paul John Dykes, host of A Celtic State of Mind podcast: "210 minutes, zero goals, zero inspiration. We didn’t deserve to get through, and that is a damning indictment on the team and the boardroom that failed to purchase the quality that we required.

"It was brutal. Celtic had absolutely no energy about us. We were so predictable. This is a game in the qualifier that isn’t in the season ticket, so fans stepped up, 56,000 in the stadium, brilliant atmosphere. We turned out for the team. They didn’t turn out for us.

"We have never won a game in Kazakhstan, and we have travelled over there four times now.

"People talked about banana skins. Every qualifier is a banana skin and you’ve got to be prepared for them, and we were ill-prepared. Our performances were absolutely toothless."

Tom English
BBC Scotland's chief sports writer

In two games the lack of ambition to improve the team has boomeranged back and hit the club squarely between the eyes. That is on the board of directors - chief among them, major shareholder Dermot Desmond.

The Irishman is immensely powerful at the club. Would it be too much for the fans to hope to hear from him from time to time? Could chief executive Michael Nicholson give a little insight on the vision?

It would not hurt and it might help explain how they have gone from the optimism of Bayern Munich to the humiliation of Kairat Almaty in six months.

The holes in the team have been obvious for a while. The need for new energy was clear. Somehow, Celtic entered the Champions League play-off round comprehensively weaker than last season.

Tuesday's failure is also on Brendan Rodgers. Celtic get love-bombed at home. Rodgers over-praises his team when they beat up on some domestic sides with a tiny fraction of their budget. Everybody swoons when they put four and five on weaker teams.

When they do a job on Rangers and win another league title to sit alongside all the other league titles, there is a feeling that nothing else matters. Progress in Europe? Yeah, that would be nice.

Tom English
BBC Scotland's chief sports writer

Brendan Rodgers has overseen some horror shows - seven-goal thrashings that made you hide behind the couch - but this was on another level. It was third-rate stuff, with apologies to third-rate.

No goal in 210 minutes of football, three missed penalties in the shootout, a couple of golden chances wasted across the two legs and more than £40m wafting away in the air in Kazakhstan. As failings go, this was a seismic one and in analysing who is at fault, there is a world of criticism for everybody.

This was a defeat for the collective - players, manager, board. They are all in the frame together. It was an illustration of a club gambling on progress by waiting for Champions League qualification to be secured before properly refreshing its squad.

It is a thunderous example of how they have allowed their standards to drop, on the pitch and off it. Not that many months ago, Celtic went toe-to-toe over two legs with the Bayern Munich of Manuel Neuer, Dayot Upamecano, Joshua Kimmich, Jamal Musiala, Harry Kane, Kingsley Coman and Thomas Muller.

In losing 3-2 on aggregate and coming within seconds of taking the Germans to extra time in their own backyard, Celtic had momentum, something to build on.

They also had a stack of money in the bank and a support, broadly, facing in the same direction as the board. There was relative harmony and positivity. A rare commodity in Glasgow.

Now there's bitterness and rancour. They have blown their feel-good factor sky high.

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Much has been made of the financial riches on offer for sides who make it to the promised land of Europe's elite competition, but much more than that was on the line for Celtic in Kazakhstan.

Over the past three seasons, the club had made themselves a regular in the competition and were an agonising Alphonso Davies goal away from reaching the knockout phase of last season's competition.

"The Champions League is a wonderful competition," said a crestfallen Brendan Rodgers.

"But as we always do we will have to stick together as a squad. It's a tough one to take, but we didn't do enough over the two legs."

Qualification for the top-level competition brings around 18m euros (£15.5m) for each club. On top of that, you can add ticket sales, merchandise, additional sponsorship and a whack of corporate cash.

In comparison, dropping into the Europa League takes that 18m euros (£15.5m) to just above 4m euros (£3.46m). A win is worth 450,000 euros (£388,000) instead of 2m euros (£1.73m).

Jack Herrall
BBC Sport Scotland

Kairat were hard to break down and offered little going forward, but they plotted their way through and held Celtic for 210 minutes before the lottery of the shootout.

James Forrest, Yang and Daizen Maeda started as Celtic's front three but showed no signs of being able to find an effective route to goal. Last summer's big summer signings Adam Idah and Arne Engels were brought on, but yielded a similar result.

"I wouldn't say I'm angry, I'm just very disappointed with what I've seen over the two legs," former Celtic winger Aiden McGeady told BBC Radio Scotland.

"It's a terrible way to go out the Champions League, but it's a stark reminder."

Match momentum measures the swing of the game by comparing each team's threat to see who is more likely to score within that minute.

The above graph shows Celtic - the team in the slim sliver of white along the bottom - were never really a force going forward despite dominating the ball with 67% possession.

Kairat, who have never played in the Champions League proper, are 311th in Uefa's coefficient rankings and, despite Celtic being placed 56th, the Scottish champions failed to push them for most of the second leg.

Celtic registered more passes in the opposition's half and a higher number of shots on target, with five to Kairat's four, but registered only 0.5 expected goals until the hosts noticeably tired in extra time.

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Celtic have just under a week to try to appease their disgruntled support and bolster the ranks.

Their next fixture is the first Old Firm of the season on Sunday and, despite starting the season stronger than Rangers, they must not let the momentum swing come lunchtime or risk a revolt from the punters.

A shot in the Europa League may end up bearing more fruit than a Champions League outing, but that perspective will take time to set in, if it even does come into fruition at all.

When asked if being in the Europa League will alter their transfer business before the end of the window, Rodgers added: "I haven't a clue. I really don't know."

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Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers says his team were not able to "find enough good moments" against Kazakh side Kairat Almaty.

The Hoops failed to score in 210 minutes of football across two legs as Kairat progressed into the Champions League proper for the first time in their history.

The Champions League play-offs also continued last night, with one British team suffering an agonising evening:

• Kairat 0-0 Celtic AET (0-0 on agg, Kairat win 3-2 on pens)
• Pafos 1-1 Red Star Belgrade (Pafos win 3-2 on agg)
• Sturm Graz 2-1 Bodo/Glimt (Bodo/Glimt win 6-2 on agg)

Nick Mashiter
BBC Sport football news reporter

West Ham boss Graham Potter has admitted the Hammers are "in pain" but called for unity after captain Jarrod Bowen had to apologise for trying to confront fans.

Bowen had gone over to the travelling fans to salute them, only to react as something seemed to be said in the stands.

Defeat - after a late Jorgen Strand Larsen brace - condemned the winless Hammers to another loss at the start of an already turbulent season.

Potter said: "We're all in pain so we need everybody to help, we need everybody's support, we need to push forward and on to the next match.

"The team's suffering at the moment, we all are, we're all hurting. I can assure you no-one's happy.

"I have no idea what was said or anything. Our supporters have been fantastic, they are hurting because of the results we've had and Jarrod obviously cares about the club and the team. It's just an exchange of views by people who care.

"Everyone is hurting, rightly so because we haven't had the results we'd like. Jarrod has been a fantastic captain and servant for the club."

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Jarrod Bowen took to social media to apologise for his reaction following Tuesday evening's defeat.

The England forward was the player who went closest to the away supporters to applaud them but then became incensed.

However, within 45 minutes of the final whistle he had apologised for his reaction.

"Apologies to the fans for tonight's reaction," Bowen wrote on Instagram.

"I'm someone who is passionate and will fight every time I step on the pitch. But I need to set a better example and you fans know how much I love you and this club.

"We ride through the bad times together and I'll see you all Sunday."

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Back to another big story from last night's EFL Cup action now - captain Jarrod Bowen trying to confront away fans after West Ham's EFL Cup exit at Wolves.

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Owls fans are hoping for Chansiri to sell the club, but there is a fear among supporters that may not happen anytime soon. Consequently they have taken to making visible and vocal protests against the ownership.

In their opening Championship game against Leicester, a banner declaring 'Enough is Enough' was displayed, while two weeks ago fans held a mock funeral procession with a coffin that they said symbolised "the death of the football club".

The Sheffield Wednesday Supporters' Trust urged fans on their website, to boycott the match and instead donate the ticket money to Sheffield Children's Hospital Charity.

"I cannot imagine many Sheffield Wednesday against Leeds games which have ever been played in a Hillsborough stadium like this," BBC Radio 5 live commentator Alistair Bruce-Ball, covering the game at Hillsborough, said before kick-off.

"The protest being made this evening was by not coming to this game. I'm pretty sure the Leeds fans, about 3,000 of them, may well outnumber the home support.

"The North stand [was] closed tonight, as is the East stand. The only place you will find the home fans is in the lower tier of the south stand."

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Paul Robinson
Former England goalkeeper on BBC Radio 5 Live

"There's an incredible story going on at the club at the moment. A lot of supporters decided not to come to the stadium but actually stood in solidarity with the ones who did.

"They finally took a stand and didn't want the owner, and club to be run the way it was.

"The supporters are standing together, the players are standing together and that performance tonight was the epitome of togetherness."

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The relationship between Sheffield Wednesday supporters and owner Dejphon Chansiri may be fractured, but for Owls boss Henrik Pedersen the "togetherness" of his young players was a source of pride as they upset Leeds on Tuesday.

Wednesday fans have been showing their discontent with the Thai businessman following a summer of turmoil during which the club has failed to pay wages on time for a third successive month, and been hit with sanctions from the EFL.

There were visible protests against Chansiri during Wednesday's Championship opener against Leicester, and that continued for the Leeds match as thousands of supporters opted to boycott the game.

Instead, many chose to follow the action at watch-a-longs at pubs and clubs, and they were treated to a display full of guts and desire by a youthful Wednesday side.

The Owls' difficult summer meant they started the season with just 12 senior players, and against Leeds they fielded a side featuring four 20-year-olds and five teenagers and an average age of 21. But there were no signs of a gulf in class between them and their Premier League opponents.

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Fabio Carvalho and Igor Thiago scored against the run of play as Brentford frustrated Bournemouth in the second round of the EFL Cup.

Both sides had gone close mid-way through the first half after a dull opening - Carvalho brushed the outside of the post after pouncing on a turnover, before Cherries captain Ryan Christie hit the woodwork with a deflected 25-yard strike.

Bournemouth enjoyed almost 65% possession in the first half, but a defensive lapse allowed their Premier League opponents to break the deadlock.

Defender Kristoffer Ajer met a diagonal free-kick with a header back across the penalty area, which Carvalho met unmarked to side foot past Djordje Petrovic in the Bournemouth goal.

The home side continued to probe after the break, but were caught cold by a swift Brentford transition when Alex Scott - who was Bournemouth's creator in chief - lost possession inside his own half.

Frank Onyeka led the charge into the penalty area, before squaring across goal for Igor Thiago to score his second goal of the season.

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Milan Aleksic missed the decisive penalty in the shootout as League One Huddersfield knocked Premier League Sunderland out of the Carabao Cup.

Aleksic, who had set up Marc Guiu's late equaliser for the Black Cats, had his effort saved by Lee Nicholls as the Terriers advanced to the third round for the first time since 2017.

The visitors, who defeated Championship promotion favourites Leicester City on penalties in the first round, had taken the lead when Leo Castledine rifled a spectacular first-time volley past Anthony Patterson after Sunderland had failed to clear a corner.

Sunderland failed to register a shot on target before the interval, with their only two attempts – from Harrison Jones and Guiu – not troubling Huddersfield goalkeeper Nicholls.

Chelsea loanee Guiu should have equalised in the second period after Chris Rigg had intercepted a loose pass deep in the Huddersfield half, but Nicholls was equal to the 19-year-old striker's effort.

After a lengthy stoppage due to a medical emergency in the crowd, the tie went to penalties. Both teams scored from their first five efforts and after Kasumu had put Huddersfield 6-5 up, Nicholls produced a fine stop to tip Aleksic's shot round the post and book Huddersfield's place in the next round.

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Nick Mashiter
BBC Sport football news reporter

Jorgen Strand Larsen piled the misery on West Ham manager Graham Potter as Wolves came from behind to win their second-round Carabao Cup tie.

The striker - subject of a £50m bid from Newcastle this week - came off the bench to score twice in the final eight minutes and send the hosts through to the third round.

Lucas Paqueta and Tomas Soucek had West Ham ahead - after Rodrigo Gomes' opener for the hosts - but Strand Larsen's strikes mean the Hammers have lost their opening three games of the season.

West Ham came to Molineux having conceded eight goals in their opening two Premier League games with Potter only winning five of his 21 matches in charge.

Predecessor Julen Lopetegui lasted just 22 matches before being sacked in January and, as Potter reaches the same number, doubts over his position will continue to grow.

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