Mike from the Red side: Dave from Manchester can shut it. Don't be silly lad. The 1999 Champions League final is the greatest EVER stoppage time in the history of all sport anywhere! Sheringham and Solskjaer. No contest Dave.

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Daniel James has been named in a Craig Bellamy Wales squad for the first time after missing the first four internationals of this season through injury.

The Leeds United winger, 26, is joined by in-form Cardiff City midfielder Rubin Colwill in a 26-strong squad for final Nations League games in Turkey and at home to Iceland this month.

Unbeaten in four games under Bellamy, victory over the Group B4 leaders in Kayseri on Saturday, 16 November would put Wales on course to wrap up promotion to League A in their final fixture in Cardiff three days later.

Aaron Ramsey remains absent having been sidelined by a hamstring problem picked up in Wales' 2-1 win in Montenegro at the start of September.

Leeds' Ethan Ampadu and Swansea City's Ollie Cooper are also unavailable through injury, but Joe Allen retains his place having returned from international retirement as a second-half substitute at Cardiff City Stadium last month.

Bellamy has also made one change to his goalkeeping options with Wolverhampton Wanderers keeper Tom King recalled as back-up in place of Sheffield United's Adam Davies.

Goalkeepers: Danny Ward, Karl Darlow, Tom King.

Defenders: Rhys Norrington-Davies, Owen Beck, Ben Davies, Ben Cabango, Joe Rodon, Chris Mepham, Connor Roberts, Neco Williams.

Midfielders: Jordan James, Rubin Colwill, Josh Sheehan, Joe Allen, Harry Wilson, David Brooks, Daniel James, Sorba Thomas, Wes Burns.

Forwards: Brennan Johnson, Kieffer Moore, Mark Harris, Nathan Broadhead, Lewis Koumas, Liam Cullen.

Read more here.

Rory Smith
Chief Soccer Correspondent for The New York Times, on BBC Live's Monday Night Club

That debate is flawed. As you are either not allowed to spend anything as the evil red cartel are stopping you doing it, or be able to spend whatever you like.

The reality is Brighton had the highest net spend in football this summer, every Premier League team is one of the 30 richest clubs in the world every season because of the TV deal, and they are still allowed to lose £100m over three years.

The idea that the profit and sustainability rules (PSR) are restrictive is absurd, compared to everyone else the Premier League teams can spend whatever they like.

All the rules are doing is saying "try not be ridiculous" - which Forest bordered on doing - within that they found a sensible squad.

They did spend a lot of money on players they didn't need. It did establish them in the Premier League, but they still didn't need to spend it. If it went wrong with a few injuries then they could very easily be in the Championship with a massive Premier League wage bill. That is why the rules are there.

The reason they got points deducted was because they delayed selling Brennan Johnson to get the most money for him, which to me seems a perfectly sensible thing to do.

They have done well to get here but have still overspent, which most fans said at the time.

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Chris Sutton
BBC Sport pundit on BBC 5 Live's Monday Night Club

It was a risk, but a risk at the time they thought was worth taking, a lot of people wouldn't like the way Nottingham Forest have gone about it.

The justification was staying in the Premier League and they did that.

In March, Forest were docked four points for breaching Premier League profit and sustainability rules.

Shay Given
Former Man City goalkeeper on BBC 5 Live's Monday Night Club

Nottingham Forest had to spend to compete in the Premier League and we always say how hard it is for promoted clubs to just stay up.

It shows with financial backing and support from the owners, you have a chance to compete in the league. It can be really hard to get a foothold in the Premier League.

While Nottingham Forest's team earned deserved praise from the Monday Night Club panel, the fact that the club was punished last season for breaking the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules (PSR) in assembling the current squad divided opinion...

A modern classic.

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While Chris Wood has scored the goals, the management will always highlight that their foundations start in defence.

Matz Sels - having become the undisputed number one - has kept the joint-most clean sheets, along with Manchester United's Andre Onana and Liverpool's Alisson Becker, in the Premier League this season.

The arrival of Nikola Milenkovic from Fiorentina - for a little less than the reported £12m - has already looked a bargain and he has formed an impressive partnership with Brazilian Murillo at the back:

• Last season Forest conceded 23 of their 68 goals from set-pieces, four more than relegated Luton and Sheffield United, but this season have let in just one
• Last season's figure was almost double their expected set-piece goals against of 12.25, highlighting a fragility from corners and free-kicks
• In a stark transformation, this season Forest have the best xG against figure from set pieces - just 1.23 - in the league.

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Chris Wood has scored eight Premier League goals this season, putting him joint-second top goalscorer ahead of the likes of Mohamed Salah and Cole Palmer:

• The 32-year-old New Zealand international has scored more than half of Forest's 14 goals this season and has 22 goals in 30 Premier League starts since making his move from Newcastle permanent in June 2023
• Nineteen of those league goals have come under Nuno since the Portuguese boss arrived last December
• Only Manchester City's Erling Haaland has scored more non-penalty goals than Wood's 18 since 23 December 2023
• Wood also has the fourth best conversion rate (32.8%) in the Premier League since Nuno arrived and is over-performing his expected goals figure (14.04) by almost five goals.

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Rory Smith
Chief Soccer Correspondent for The New York Times, on BBC 5 Live's Monday Night Club

Morgan Gibbs-White was a lot of money for a player of his CV at that stage, now the team is built around him.

He now has England recognition and looks like a proper high-level Premier League standard number 10, and there aren't many of those.

You go through that Forest team and there are some really smart signings. Even someone like Alex Moreno, who they picked up on loan from Aston Villa, has been superb.

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Three players have stood out this season for Nottingham Forest:

• The summer addition of Serbia centre-back Nikola Milenkovic from Fiorentina has added steel and height to the defence
• Morgan Gibbs-White provides the creative hub and continues to justify his place in the England set-up
• New Zealand striker Chris Wood has been a revelation, leading the line and providing a goal threat.

Let's have a look at those three in more detail...

Chris Sutton
BBC Sport pundit on BBC 5 Live's Monday Night Club

I don't think Nottingham Forest over play or press, they are in a mid-block. Nuno Espirito Santo in his interview on Match of the Day said when the game starts, the idea is to keep a clean sheet. They will stay compact and help each other create a platform, they have their own identity.

People may view that as negative but they have a lovely balance. Their owner is super ambitious, and has been criticised for his spending, but their recruitment has been excellent.

Rory Smith
Chief Soccer Correspondent for The New York Times, on BBC 5 Live's Monday Night Club

This is what Nuno Espirito Santo does, shown at his time with Wolves. He is really good at getting recently promoted teams quite high in the Premier League.

Wolves finished seventh one year, with a smaller squad than Forest. They have real depth to cover injuries.

Nuno knows what he is doing with this level of expectation.

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The consensus on Monday Night Club was that - rather than aiming for the Premier League title - a solid, mid-table finish would represent progression for Nottingham Forest this season...

Nick Mashiter
BBC Sport football news reporter

Are Nottingham Forest showing signs of 'doing a Leicester 2016'?

Hang on, hear us out first...

The broad picture is this:

• Forest are third in the Premier League - their highest position since 1998 - after winning three on the bounce in the top flight for the first time since 1999
• Their opening 10 games mirror Leicester's 2015-16 start when the Foxes stunned the sport as they won the Premier League at odds of 5,000-1
• Forest's five wins, four draws and one defeat is identical to Leicester's record, although they have three more clean sheets than Claudio Ranieri's side did nine years ago and a better goal difference by seven
• Striker Chris Wood - a different player but just as talismanic as Jamie Vardy - has eight goals and they have the second-best defence in the division, having only avoided relegation by four points last season.

Read more here.

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Right, we are moving away from Fulham's win over Brentford, but please feel free to continue recounting your stories about epic stoppage-time winners.

Before switching focus to the Champions League, let's return to some of the hot topics discussed in Monday Night Club, which is available to listen back on BBC Sounds in the latest edition of Football Daily.

We start our round-up with a look at the rise of Nottingham Forest, and whether their route to success via a wild spending spree following promotion from the Championship should now be seen as justifiable...

Stephen Kelly
Former Tottenham defender on BBC Radio 5 Sports Extra

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It’s funny because there’s a lot of talk about Brentford about their early goals, their set plays, and how they’ve been so well organised. Loads of positives. But then in-game management, in-game play, they seem to be conceding quite a lot.

I just think that, at times, they are caught out of position, teams put crosses in against them, get behind their full-backs, and get into those areas where they can be dangerous. So it’s something they’re going to have to work on.

But Thomas Frank, he’s done amazingly since he’s been there. Every other week he’s getting linked with a job somewhere else. So I think Brentford will come good in the end but they’ve given up a lot of leads this season and it’s something that has to change if they want to get that consistency back.

Back to Brentford and a final word from Stephen Kelly on the improvements the Bees need to make to capitalise on their positive forward play...

Dave, Manchester: Aguerooooooooooooooooooooo!

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