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Red card chaos & Haaland housery - analysis

  1. Goodbyepublished at 14:57 British Summer Time 23 September

    Today's page was all about Manchester City's dramatic draw with Arsenal.

    Although that's us, you can still scroll on the page and read all the reaction to the game - just click on the links in the summary box.

    Plenty in there, including Ian Wright's comments about Erling Haaland's antics, how Haaland reached 100 Manchester City goals, Troy Deeney's team of the week and reaction from both managers.

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    Phil McNulty Q&A: 'Not a disgrace by any means'published at 14:53 British Summer Time 23 September

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    Paul: Hi Phil, in my view the City vs Arsenal game was a disgrace. Players going down like they had been seriously injured then getting up like nothing had happened. Why was Pep not booked for kicking his seat? Time wasting. Arsenal not even attempting to get out of their own half for 45mins. Our “top referee” completely unable to control the match…… and this is supposed to be the best league in the world? This isn’t sport or entertaining.

    Phil: Hello, Paul. I admit there was a real edge to the game and few incidents that needed tackling by the officials but I must confess I thought it was great and very entertaining. Not a disgrace by any means, although I respect your opinion and many neutrals may share it, especially as there was undoubtedly time wasting, but it got added on and Manchester City equalised in that added time.

    Think the “dark arts” business has been a bit over-done and the end was unsavoury with Haaland hurling the ball at the back of Gabriel’s head and lots of chat at the end – but I was entertained.

  3. Forwardspublished at 14:49 British Summer Time 23 September

    Troy's PL team of the week

    Luis Diaz (Liverpool): On the right for Liverpool he was the best player on the pitch by a country mile. I appreciate this is a massive statement but it made me think if Liverpool do let Mohamed Salah go, he could take over as the main man. He was excellent, left foot, right foot. He ran short and ran long. His enthusiasm to play football was brilliant and both his goals were unbelievable as well. Fantastic, fantastic.

    Nicolas Jackson (Chelsea): This weekend is all about Jackson. Two great goals and an assist, all done before he was given a rest after 60 minutes. It was a fine day at the office for him. I'm quite critical of how many chances he misses for Chelsea and, if he wants to be the main man moving forward, he has to have more games like this. He grabbed hold of it, offered a threat in behind and scored goals. Chelsea don't need to buy another striker if he stays in this kind of form.

    Iliman Ndiaye (Everton): The last three weeks, when Everton have been really poor, he's been the shining light. He looks like he's the one with no fear. He works really hard off the ball and on it he adds a different dimension and quality that Everton didn't have. They need to keep him fit if they hope to stay up. If he keeps playing well they'll have a chance.

    Luis DiazImage source, Getty Images
  4. Midfielderspublished at 14:46 British Summer Time 23 September

    Troy's PL team of the week

    Sam Morsy (Ipswich): I've been critical of him of late, I think it's taken him a little while to get up to speed with the tempo of the Premier League. But he was much better this week and got around the pitch more. Defensively he has a massive job for Ipswich and he did really well.

    Tyler Dibling (Southampton): He is one player everybody needs to look forward to because he is the business. He might not still be at Southampton in January. This 18-year-old can play anywhere in midfield - a sitter, a 10, an eight, you name it he's got it in the bag. He was super-confident and so comfortable. Every now and then you see a player who looks like they walk through games, he is like that. He scored his first goal as well, fair play to him.

    James Maddison (Tottenham): This is the game I've been waiting to see Madds do for a long, long time. Even though Brentford scored early he got in there and said 'right, watch what I do'. He created loads of chances. I've been critical of him at times, I felt he has gone too short and not put himself in difficult positions. This was the perfect response.

  5. Defenders - Alexander-Arnold, Konsa, Gabriel, Calafioripublished at 14:43 British Summer Time 23 September

    Troy's PL team of the week

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    Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool): I was at the Liverpool game, where Alexander-Arnold was excellent at the back against a Bournemouth team who were lively. Alexander-Arnold was good both defensively and going forward, where Bournemouth had to rotate two or three people just to deal with his attacks. He got a great assist as well.

    Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa): I know Konsa played as a right-back to start with, but he moved as the game developed. He has become one of the best defenders England have got. He's very consistent and can can play anywhere across the backline. He came up with a pivotal goal for Aston Villa as well.

    Gabriel (Arsenal): Gabriel is getting a lot of attention and rightly so. He's got this aura now when it comes to set-pieces. Every team he faces must think he's going to score. You saw Manchester City put two on him and couldn't stop him. Defensively he was at his best, Arsenal just couldn't get over the line.

    Riccardo Calafiori (Arsenal): Calafiori had a poor start but grew into the game. He scored an unbelievable goal but I thought his tactical nous, and his understanding of defending when his side were a player down, was excellent.

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    Phil McNulty Q&A: 'Arteta has to make Trossard aware of his foolishness yesterday'published at 14:40 British Summer Time 23 September

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    James: Hi Phil, am I alone in thinking this "inconsistency" is none of Arsenal's business? I think he would be better served telling his own players to improve their discipline. Does it seem to you that, apart from Arteta, we're seeing less and less of PL managers commenting on referee performances nowadays?

    Phil: I think you might be right and there is less comment, although it will happen. I think managers have been made fully aware of the potential risks of commenting on the performances of referees.

    I think in the cold light of day, Arteta has to make Trossard aware of his foolishness yesterday, how it changed the game completely and how one momentary indiscretion may eventually be seen as costing Arsenal two points.

    I would never expect any manager to come out with public criticism of a player but incidents such as yesterday’s can end up proving costly and Arteta should address it in private with Trossard.

  7. Goalkeeperpublished at 14:35 British Summer Time 23 September

    Troy's PL team of the week

    Andre OnanaImage source, Getty Images

    Andre Onana (Manchester United): "He made an excellent double save, which I thought was miles better than David Raya's in the Champions League.

    "Onana is under pressure at Manchester United, but he kept them in a game they probably should have gone on to win. He was top drawer."

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    Phil McNulty Q&A: 'A good coach but pragmatic'published at 14:30 British Summer Time 23 September

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    Paul: Why have West Ham gone for a manager of similar style to Moyes after relieving him seemingly because of his style of football?

    Phil: You make an excellent point, Paul. I think David Moyes had probably reached the end of the line at West Ham, although I think he will only be fully appreciated when more time passes but anyone expecting Julen Lopetegui to replace the Moyes still with some sort of thrill-a-minute expansive approach has clearly never watched any of his previous teams.

    A good coach but pragmatic.

  9. Troy's manager of the week.... Artetapublished at 14:25 British Summer Time 23 September

    Mikel ArtetaImage source, PA Media

    "He will probably feel like he lost today, but tactically he got the gameplan spot on," Troy Deeney said.

    "I thought he looked after Erling Haaland - I know he scored, but on the whole you didn't really see him much. Even after they conceded, Arsenal stuck to their gameplan and quickly went 2-1 up.

    "He then took the decision to take off Bukayo Saka and camp 10 men inside their box. Up until the 98th minute it looked like he'd pulled off the perfect masterclass."

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    Phil McNulty Q&A: 'I think it's a great idea'published at 14:20 British Summer Time 23 September

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    Keith: Phil, I think you must have had this question put to your many times but for my benefit, what is stopping football from adopting the NBA approach of counting down the clock from say 35 or 30 minutes per half and stopping the clock when ball is out of play? Seems a no-brainer as it removes incentives for timewasting and also no drama over how many minutes of extra time is required.

    Phil: Hello, Keith. I have said before I have no problem with this and would happily see it introduced. I actually don’t know what is stopping it being introduced other than Premier League clubs being against it. I think it’s a great idea.

  11. Who has made Troy's PL team of the week?published at 14:15 British Summer Time 23 September

    After every round of Premier League matches this season, BBC football pundit Troy Deeney will give you his team and manager of the week.

    Here are this week's choices. Do you agree? Hit the thumbs.

    Troy Deeney's team of the week
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    Phil McNulty Q&A: 'If tackling is ever banned then I will give up watching football'published at 14:10 British Summer Time 23 September

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    Lincoln Steve: Morning Phil. After Morgan Gibbs-White’s sending off on Sunday, do you think we're getting ever closer to Michel Platini's ambition of "banning tackling"? Isn't this the kind of strong challenge and passion we want to see in football?

    Phil: Hi, Steve. I (thankfully) don’t think we are getting close to that. Gibbs-White got some of the ball but he also got a lot of Joao Pedro. I thought it was reckless for someone already on a yellow card, running the risk of what actually happened.

    If tackling is ever banned then I will give up watching football.

  13. Gibbs-White red cardpublished at 14:06 British Summer Time 23 September

    Brighton 2-2 Nottingham Forest

    Gibbs-White receives red cardImage source, Getty Images

    The main talking point from Brighton's 2-2 draw with Nottingham Forest was Morgan Gibbs-White's red card for the visitors late in the game.

    Both managers were sent from the dugout in the aftermath of Gibbs-White being shown a second yellow card for a challenge on Joao Pedro.

    On BBC Radio 5 Live's Football Daily podcast, presenter Darren Fletcher said he thought Forest were so angry with the decision because referee Rob Jones had signalled Gibbs-White had played the ball, before then dismissing the midfielder.

    "He's either got to stick to it [his first decision] or they [referees] have got to be told not to be so rash," said ex-England goalkeeper Paul Robinson.

    "He does get the ball, but it's the force he goes with and the pace of the tackle where he catches the player and you can understand why the card has been given.

    "It's one of those: you can understand both arguments, but the referee has caused himself the problems by running over there and initially making the shape of the ball. Then, that's when everything's gone off because the Forest manager is immediately thinking 'the referee's told me he's got the ball and now he's sent him off, how can that be right?'"

    Former Aston Villa and West Ham midfielder Nigel Reo-Coker said: "As a referee, you've got to stick to what you did and he did the ball sign.

    "When he changed his mind, I knew instantly this is going to be what this whole game is going to be spoken about. We had a brilliant game of football but again we're going to be talking about a refereeing decision."

  14. Blue Heaven Holdings and The Friedkin Group reach Everton agreeementpublished at 14:00 British Summer Time 23 September
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    A stake in Everton has been agreed to be bought by Blue Heaven Holdings and The Friedkin Group.

    The company said: "Blue Heaven Holdings and The Friedkin Group confirm that they have reached agreement over the terms of the sale of Blue Heaven Holdings’ majority stake in Everton Football Club. The transaction is subject to regulatory approval, including from the Premier League, the Football Association, and the Financial Conduct Authority."

    A spokesperson for The Friedkin Group added: "We are pleased to have reached an agreement to become custodians of this iconic football club. We are focused on securing the necessary approvals to complete the transaction. We look forward to providing stability to the club, and sharing our vision for its future, including the completion of the new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock."

  15. Arsenal and the art of the perfect cornerpublished at 13:56 British Summer Time 23 September

    Man City 2-2 Arsenal

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    Arsenal celebrateImage source, Getty Images

    It was hardly surprising that it was a set-piece that gave Arsenal the lead against City. Everyone knows how dangerous they are now, particularly at corners, but because they are so good at them, they are still very difficult to stop.

    As a player, I always knew there would always be opportunities in these situations, if not for me then for one of my team-mates.

    My old Newcastle boss Bobby Robson would tell us “there is always one dope who falls asleep” and we would try to pick out the opposition player who would be slow to react or forget his job.

    That’s not what happened against City, though, whether for Arsenal’s first corner against them - when Gabriel escaped Jeremy Doku and headed over - or for the next one, where he got away from Kyle Walker and powered the ball into the net.

    Instead, while everyone knew what Gabriel was doing and where he wanted to go, his sensational movement meant they could not stop him, and he was also only one part of Arsenal’s plan.

    So many things had to happen, in a certain order and in the space of a couple of seconds, for the ball to end up in the net and I know from experience they are not easy to put together. You have to work extremely hard at all of them to make them work.

    Firstly you need a precise delivery, which is what Bukayo Saka provided here, then you have to execute the block, with four Arsenal players coming in from the back post and standing in the middle of the goal, in front of Ederson, to impede him and to nudge other defenders out of the way too.

    Gabriel has to time his run perfectly and come through all of that crowd and then, if he does get on the end of the cross, execute his finish correctly too. He didn’t quite manage it with his first go, but he made no mistake a few minutes later.

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  16. A ‘masterclass’ in defendingpublished at 13:52 British Summer Time 23 September

    Man City 2-2 Arsenal

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    I was just as impressed with the way Arsenal responded after Leandro Trossard was sent off. Up until Stones scored they had produced a masterclass in defending as a team in the second half.

    Every player put in an incredible effort to frustrate City for so long, but again there was a plan behind it and the whole team was working together.

    When City were camped outside their box, Arsenal thought about the whole process, staying in position, working out who to give time to in possession, and who to close down straight away.

    They gave no space to Doku or Savinho, for example, but they were always happy to give Ruben Dias the chance to shoot, or get on the ball.

    It was brilliant game management, but I was slightly surprised that City did not try to stretch them more, move the ball quicker or try to get more players in one on one situations.

    That is what happened with Jack Grealish at the end, when he found some width and got around the back of the Arsenal defence twice in 30 seconds, and won the corner that they scored from.

    While Arsenal deserve a lot of credit for shutting City out for so long, you also have to admire Pep Guardiola’s side for the way they kept going to rescue a point because, for large parts, of the game it looked as if they were getting nothing.

    Instead, what could have been an awful day for them, including Rodri’s injury that forced him off early on, ended on a really positive note.

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    Phil McNulty Q&A: 'Poor and petulant from Haaland'published at 13:48 British Summer Time 23 September

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    Anon: Hi Phil. Am I alone in thinking Haaland should be sanctioned for deliberately throwing the ball at an opposing player's head? For me it's a straight red card.

    I thought he should have been sanctioned at the time but there was an awful lot going on for referee Michael Oliver to see it. It was reviewed by VAR at the time and not considered to be a red card offence, remembering VAR can only get involved in red card offences.

    I thought it was really poor and petulant from Haaland and he was extremely lucky to escape punishment.

  18. 'That's a disrespect' - Haaland's celebrationspublished at 13:43 British Summer Time 23 September

    Man City 2-2 Arsenal

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    Former England defender on BBC Radio 5 Live Breakfast

    I don't like the ball on the back of the head [from Haaland to Gabriel]. I think that's a disrespect. I don't like that. Charging into somebody when you're hyped and you see that physicality, I think we all quite enjoy seeing that in sport.

    It's a contact sport. It's a little bit over the top but you can accept that in these kinds of matches. But the throwing the ball at the back of the head when you’ve scored, I don't like that.

    Erling Haaland and GabrielImage source, Getty Images
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    Phil McNulty Q&A: 'Chelsea have more than enough quality to be in that conversation'published at 13:40 British Summer Time 23 September

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    Ben: Hi Phil, despite all the ongoing chaos off the pitch Chelsea have made a good start to the season can they finish in the top four?

    Phil: Hello, Ben. They look very decent don’t they? They have settled into a recognisable style under Enzo Maresca and have very good players. It is simply allowing them to get some stability and learn to play with each.

    Early days but I have always felt the fourth place is up for grabs behind Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool. My tip is Aston Villa but Chelsea have more than enough quality to be in that conversation.

  20. 'Focus on the game and defend yourself'published at 13:37 British Summer Time 23 September

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    Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola has said he asks his players to "focus on the game and defend yourself" if they feel other teams are employing time-wasting against them.

    Several City players spoke after Sunday's 2-2 draw against Arsenal in less than complimentary terms about the Gunners' approach to holding on to their 2-1 lead in the second half at Etihad Stadium.

    Asked if he gives his players instructions on how to deal with occasions when they feel the opposition is attempting to "spoil the game", Guardiola said: "Focus on the game and defend yourself, focus on what we have to do, try to do what we’ve done for many, many years. But defend yourself, that is all I ask.

    "The behaviours we cannot control, don't go away from what is really important - the game. We are an honest team. We go there and try to do our best."