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Red card chaos & Haaland housery - analysis

  1. 'Trossard knew what he was doing'published at 09:40 British Summer Time 23 September

    Man City 2-2 Arsenal

    Nigel Reo-Coker
    Former West Ham midfielder on the Football Daily podcast

    I played in teams who wasted time. It is part of the game, you are playing one of the best sides in world football, away from home in a game of the magnitude for what is at stake, your going to try all the tricks in the book.

    Leandro Trossard knew what he was doing when he booted the ball away as well - he was trying to waste time to let the half finish.

    It was naive and stupid. That is two stupid red cards that they have had, with Trossard and Declan Rice, but I am all for it.

    At the end of the day we can all talk as fans and pundits, but if we were in Mikel Arteta's position then we would be asking our players to do the same thing.

    That is what top players do. Do what you have to do to win football matches.

    Leandro Trossard is shown a red cardImage source, Getty Images
  2. Red card chaos and Haaland 'housery'published at 09:33 British Summer Time 23 September

    Man City 2-2 Arsenal

    Match of the Day 2 pundits Alan Shearer and Shay Given analyse the chaotic moments of a thrilling Premier League 2-2 draw between Manchester City and Arsenal.

    Watch:

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    Match of the Day 2: Red card chaos & Erling Haaland 'housery'

  3. Does a Premier League red card affect the Carabao Cup?published at 09:26 British Summer Time 23 September

    Man City 2-2 Arsenal

    Leandro Trossard touching his hairImage source, Getty Images

    Leandro Trossard received a red card against Manchester City on Sunday in their Premier League match after two yellow card bookings.

    This carries a one-match ban but the next time Arsenal play is in the EFL Cup, so does this mean Trossard can't play in this game? Yes it does. Red cards in any domestic competition (Premier League, FA Cup and EFL Cup) carry across all of the tournaments.

    This does mean he will be available for their league match against Leicester on Saturday.

  4. Pride and frustrationpublished at 09:19 British Summer Time 23 September

    Man City 2-2 Arsenal

    Simon Stone
    BBC Sport's chief football news reporter

    Mikel Arteta quite correctly said that he doesn't know what the score would have been at the Etihad Stadium had Leandro Trossard not been sent off in the first half.

    Just because Arsenal were leading at the time, and survived all of the second half and eight minutes of injury-time without him, it doesn't mean they would have won it with him.

    Yet that is what the gut reaction will feel like. There will be a sense of injustice at the manner of Trossard's early exit, justified or not, and that is quite normal too.

    But the fact that Arsenal got so close to ending Manchester City's long unbeaten home record - and went so long without conceding against the champions despite being a man down - bodes well for the future.

    Arsenal may not encounter this set of circumstances again, but they will have adversity to overcome this season. What happened this afternoon will stand them in good stead for the challenges that lie ahead.

    Pride and frustration can be easy bedfellows on the return trip back to London.

  5. 'Trossard can have no complaints' - McNultypublished at 09:11 British Summer Time 23 September

    Man City 2-2 Arsenal

    There may have been some grumbles from the Arsenal camp about Leandro Trossard's red card but the BBC's chief football writer Phil McNulty says the player can have no complaints.

    More reaction:

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    Man City 2-2 Arsenal: Chief football writer Phil McNulty on Leandro Trossard

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    Get Involved - McNulty Q&Apublished at 09:02 British Summer Time 23 September

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    This has been another Premier League weekend full of talking points with red cards, late drama and thrashings.

    But if you had one burning question to ask the BBC's chief football writer Phil McNulty what would it be? Once you have it in mind use the information above to get in touch.

    Do remember to leave your name with your message.

  7. Did you know?published at 08:55 British Summer Time 23 September

    Man City 2-2 Arsenal

    Since Mikel Arteta's first game in charge of Arsenal in December 2019, the Gunners have seen 17 players red carded in the Premier League - at least four more than any other club. It was Leandro Trossard's first red card in 175 appearances in the competition.

    Riccardo Calafiori was only the second player to score a goal from outside the box on his first Premier League start for Arsenal, after Fabio Vieira against Brentford in September 2022. Calafiori's goal was from Arsenal's first shot of the match.

    Want more Arsenal news? Have a read of the club page.

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    Get Involvedpublished at 08:48 British Summer Time 23 September

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    Re: Rick at 08:07. One of the biggest gripes I've heard from fans in recent years is the matter of time wasting. The simple and effective way of dealing with this is to give yellow cards for delaying the restart. Far from ruining football, this will improve the game. Also, a red card is not a harsh punishment for the offence of receiving a second yellow card, I've no sympathy for anyone who delays a restart when they're already on a yellow.

    Jason in Lincolnshire

    Just reminding Rick (08:07) that they’re laws, not rules. And the PGMOL don’t decide what the priorities are. The laws of the game dictate what the priorities are. If people don't like getting booked for kicking the ball away, stop doing it.

    Dean

  9. Liverpool left frustratedpublished at 08:41 British Summer Time 23 September

    Liverpool 1-1 Leicester City

    Sophie Roman Haug heading the ballImage source, Getty Images

    Liverpool were left frustrated in their opening game of the Women's Super League after a determined Leicester fought back to earn a point.

    Sophie Roman Haug, Liverpool's top scorer last season, gave the Reds a deserved lead on the stroke of half-time.

    But Leicester, under the guidance of new manager Amandine Miquel, were resilient, organised and refused to lie down.

    The Foxes equalised eight minutes after the break with a clinical strike from Jutta Rantala.

    Read the full report.

  10. Palace have rude awakeningpublished at 08:33 British Summer Time 23 September

    Tottenham 4-0 Crystal Palace

    Sam Drury
    BBC Sport

    A superb debut goal for Hayley Raso helped Tottenham to a thumping win over Women's Super League newcomers Crystal Palace.

    The Australian, who joined from Real Madrid in the summer, opened the scoring before second-half goals from Jess Naz, Drew Spence and Olga Ahtinen rounded off a convincing victory for Robert Vilahamn's side.

    Palace ended their first ever WSL game with 10 as substitute Brooke Aspin was sent off for two bookings in a matter of seconds in stoppage time.

    Read the full report.

  11. Miedema scores against former clubpublished at 08:25 British Summer Time 23 September

    Arsenal 2-2 Man City

    Emma Sanders
    BBC Sport women’s football news reporter

    Vivianne MiedemaImage source, Getty Images

    Vivianne Miedema scored on her return to Emirates Stadium as Manchester City drew with former club Arsenal in their Women's Super League opener.

    A brilliant long-range effort from England international Jess Park looked to have given City the victory before Arsenal substitute Beth Mead volleyed in a late equaliser.

    Netherlands international Miedema, who was allowed to leave Arsenal when her contract expired this summer, was fortunate her strike took a heavy deflection off defender Laia Codina and she did not celebrate her goal.

    "I'm not really a big celebration person anyway," Miedema told Sky Sports after the game. "You saw a bit of emotion but that's normal. Besides that, be respectful to the [Arsenal] fans that supported me for the last seven years as well.

    "Me coming back here today was a big thing. I'm really happy with the reception I got from the Arsenal fans," she added. "The most important thing today was to start the season well with the new team. It's always nice to get off that zero again and get a goal."

    Read the full report.

  12. Three red cards in Forest Brighton drawpublished at 08:18 British Summer Time 23 September

    Nottingham Forest 2-2 Brighton

    Michael Emons
    BBC Sport

    One player and both managers were sent off as Brighton and Nottingham Forest maintained their unbeaten Premier League records in an entertaining draw.

    After four goals at Amex Stadium, the match ended in controversial fashion when Forest's Morgan Gibbs-White was shown a second yellow card for a sliding challenge on Brighton's Joao Pedro.

    Brighton boss Fabian Hurzeler was dismissed by referee Rob Jones, who then also showed a red card to Forest manager Nuno Espirito Santo for their reactions to the incident.

    Read the full report.

  13. Postpublished at 08:14 British Summer Time 23 September

    We shall bring you more reaction to that dramatic draw between Man City and Arsenal shortly but first let's see what other headlines were grabbed on Sunday...

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    Get Involvedpublished at 08:07 British Summer Time 23 September

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    Do we as fans, and football as a whole, really want games spoiled by this 'delay of game' yellow card? It clearly is not being applied consistently and it is causing division. Why do PGMOL have so much power to decide what is and isn't a priority anyway? For me they are ruining football. It may be a 'rule' but red cards seem an overly harsh punishment foe a relatively minor infringement. Certainly not adding to the game.

    Rick

  15. Arteta speaks on 'worrying' callpublished at 08:00 British Summer Time 23 September

    Man City 2-2 Arsenal

    Mikel ArtetaImage source, Getty Images

    Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta was left frustrated by referee Michael Oliver's call to send off Leandro Trossard.

    Trossard was shown a second yellow card after kicking the ball away in the first half.

    Arteta said: "I think it's very clear. Very obvious. Hopefully what 100 per cent of what people thinks. It's not my job to come here and judge what happened. My job is to survive in the most difficult environment you can throw in football for 55 minutes. And try to get things done to survive. That's my job, the rest is not my job.

    "It's already the second time it has happened in five games, which is really, really worrying if we want to see the best Premier League."

  16. 'Arteta's referee rage'published at 07:53 British Summer Time 23 September

    Monday's back pages

    The Guardian

    The Guardian have also focused in on the Man City Arsenal match but have led on Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta's comments about referee Michael Oliver.

    GuardianImage source, Guardian
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    Get Involvedpublished at 07:44 British Summer Time 23 September

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    Why don't we call the "dark arts" and "streetwise" what it actually is? Cheating.

    Nick, Manchester

    City are rattled. Arsenal have their number. All this talk of “dark arts”. City invented it. Tears everywhere in Manchester.

    Ben, Warrington

  18. Silva says Arsenal employed 'dark arts'published at 07:37 British Summer Time 23 September

    Man City 2-2 Arsenal

    Simon Stone
    BBC Sport's chief football news reporter

    Manchester City forward Bernardo Silva said only one team came to play football in their 2-2 Premier League draw with Arsenal, who were accused of employing "dark arts" at Etihad Stadium.

    But Gunners manager Mikel Arteta claimed it was "a miracle" his side came so close to victory after playing the second half with 10 men.

    John Stones' 98th-minute equaliser denied Arsenal what would have been a huge victory over the defending champions.

    After winger Leandro Trossard was controversially sent off in first-half injury time, the Gunners had just 12.5% of possession in the second half.

    City had 28 shots in the second period - a number eclipsed only by the momentous 'Aguero' title-winning second half against QPR in 2012.

    "There was only one team that came to play football," Silva told TNT Sports Brazil. "The other came to play to the limits of what was possible to do and allowed by the referee, unfortunately.

    "I'm glad we always enter the pitch to try to win every match."

    Read the full piece.

  19. 'City taunt 'dirty' Arsenal'published at 07:32 British Summer Time 23 September

    Monday's back pages

    The Daily Telegraph

    John Stones' "dirty" comment is also the lead story for The Telegraph. The England international referenced time wasting as a tactic he did not like.

    TelegraphImage source, Telegraph
  20. 'You can call it clever or dirty' - Stonespublished at 07:26 British Summer Time 23 September

    Man City 2-2 Arsenal

    John StonesImage source, Getty Images

    Manchester City defender John Stones said his side had to "control their emotions" while dealing with Arsenal's tactics, speaking to BBC's Match of the Day post-game.

    He said: "They slow the game down. They get the keeper on the floor so they can get some information on to the pitch. We had to control our emotions during those tough times.

    "I wouldn't say they have mastered it but they have done it for a few years now so we knew to expect that. You can call it clever or dirty, whichever way you want to put it, but they break up the game which upsets the rhythm.

    "They use it to their advantage and we dealt with it very well."