What did the pundits make of Aberdeen's defeat to FCSB?published at 12:03 BST 29 August
12:03 BST 29 August
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Aberdeen legend Willie Miller on BBC Scotland
I think Jimmy Thelin has an identity - he kept two up top in the second half when it would have been easy to go with one.
They've got to lift themselves mentally and physically now. FCSB didn't look as though they were going to hurt Aberdeen because of that organisation.
Falkirk are up next, and Aberdeen have to look at that as three points.
It was a very good first half, though the red card and penalty incident was a body blow to them - a brutal decision.
When that happens in Europe, it's really difficult to recover from.
Former Aberdeen striker Billy Dodds on BBC Scotland
It's the way it's been going for us over the last few nights. It's been a kick in the teeth [the penalty decision].
Aberdeen will feel hard done by. It was going perfectly until that decision [the red card].
Former Aberdeen assistant Tony Docherty on BBC Scotland
On the controversial penalty award
I don't think there's enough in that. I don't think there's enough contact.
For me, I'd say that is not a penalty. It is so harsh to give a penalty and a sending off. Aberdeen have done so well. That is so hard on them. So harsh.
Aberdeen... are they going to put on a good performance throughout the whole of this European campaign? I'm not convinced.
I do have concerns for them. I just think, with the way they've started the campaign, the Scottish Cup win last season probably painted over a lot of cracks.
I think it could be a tough one. I didn't feel like players really believed last night when they went behind, and obviously, it is tough in those situations.
'A complete disgrace' - fans fume at VAR controversy in Europa exitpublished at 10:00 BST 29 August
10:00 BST 29 August
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Highlights: FCSB 3-0 Aberdeen (5-2 agg)
We asked for your views on Aberdeen's 3-0 loss at FCSB that completed a 5-2 aggregate defeat in the Europa League play-off and consigned the Dons to the Conference League.
Here are some of your comments:
Steven: Dreadful decision by VAR [on Alexander Jensen red card and penalty]. Double punishment made it worse, which completely changed the game. That is not a way to determine a cup tie. Better luck to Aberdeen in the Conference League!
Euan: Gutted. Bitter. Frustrated. Proud. Somehow all four. We gave four goals away through sloppy passing or team mistakes. Typical us but somehow though I still think we were the better team but we will never really know. The great shame is both games were affected by red cards. Our red was flat out the wrong application of the rules. Onwards to the Conference. Lets get some scalps.
Allan: No doubt red card changed the game. If only we managed to get more out of the first leg and this is where my ire is with Jimmy Thelin and his squad. To me the team looks undercooked. Poor pre-season and of the eight or so new signings only one looks to make a difference. Proper signings and big improvement in performances needed ASAP or fans will start to turn.
Michael: If you lose your two main strikers in the close season and don't replace then then it's little wonder you lose both your opening league games (without scoring a goal) and then get dumped out of the Europa League by a very ordinary team.
Rich: The penalty and sending off is a complete disgrace and totally ruined the tie.
Fred: Started well but FSBC took full advantage after the sending off. We failed to do this during the first leg. I cannot understand why we made the half-time substitutes as we simply had no threat second half. Our manager is too complacent and seems to have signed some substandard players, it will be a hard season I fear.
Jimibub: If we play like we did with 11, and actually start converting chances, we will be fine. It's yet another dodgy call that has hurt our European coffers, as has often happened over the last few years. But as Knoester says, it's no excuse, especially for players who have all experienced this before.
FCSB 3-0 Aberdeen (5-2 agg): Have your saypublished at 22:47 BST 28 August
22:47 BST 28 August
Ten-man Aberdeen dropped into the Conference League as a frustrating first-half red card and FCSB penalty turned the Europa League play-off tie in favour of the eventually comfortable Romanian champions.
Red card & penalty 'not an excuse' says Knoesterpublished at 22:47 BST 28 August
22:47 BST 28 August
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Defender Mats Knoester says Aberdeen can't use Alexander Jensen's red card and FCSB's penalty as an "excuse" for the club's Europa League play-off defeat.
"I think we were in the game in the beginning, we did quite well, until the penalty.
"I think that was a massive hit for us, but then the way we respond, we should do better and stay in the game longer.
"You know you're going to get one or two chances and then it's still possible, you know? So yeah, disappointment is the logical feeling after.
"I don't want to use it as an excuse, but it is a massive decision.
"I haven't seen it back yet, but from what I saw in the game, it looked like quite natural movement and then also the sending off, once again it's not an excuse because we can still react after that and still with 10 men we can do better, but it was a big decision.
"In the home game as well, we had our chances and we gave away cheap goals.
"They use that, they punish us directly, which we forget to punish them if they give us something.
"Now it's disappointment, but we have to switch fast, first of all, Sunday and still in the Conference League.
"You always need to learn and not be stuck too long in the disappointment.
"You have to be critical against each other, but also to yourself and then move on because the next one is the most important now."
FCSB 3-0 Aberdeen (5-2 agg): What did Thelin say?published at 22:44 BST 28 August
22:44 BST 28 August
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Aberdeen manager Jimmy Thelin tells BBC Scotland: "It's not an excuse but it's a tough one and of course, it changes the dynamic of the game.
"Over the two games, we get punished but we can't punish them, that's the difference but the penalty situation changed the dynamic of the game.
"I think in both games, when we played 11-11, we were quite stable.
"In these situations with the skill of the opponents, when you make a mistake, they have enough quality to hurt you and also when we get our own opportunities, we have to find the calmness and create more in our own situations.
"For us, it's most important that we're taking some steps also in these situations.
"I think you see the supporters we have here today, they're travelling far to support us and the players also know what is important - that's football. You have to move on quick and be ready for the Sunday game.
"And that's also my job, to get the players in that direction because that's how you grow as a person, as a player and you take responsibility."
On Shayden Morris, who wasn't in the matchday squad due to "strong interest", Thelin added: "He's been allowed to travel, but I can't say more than that because no deal is done yet.
"The transfer window is there and we have to always adapt in football and take the situation where it is and focus on the things we can control."
Travelling Dons fans in optimistic moodpublished at 11:49 BST 28 August
11:49 BST 28 August
Tyrone Smith BBC Sport Scotland Senior Reporter in Bucharest
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The National Arena in Bucharest awaits Aberdeen tonight
Around 800 Aberdeen fans have made the trip to sunny Bucharest.
Hopefully they have remembered to pack their sun lotion, with the temperature hovering around the 30 degree mark.
I am sure they will be taking plenty of fluids on board.
Those I have spoken to over the past 48 hours, both in Scotland and here in the Romanian capital, are pretty confident about their side's chances of progressing to the Europa League.
It is an optimism fuelled partly by FCSB's poor form so far this season and that the Dons showed they are capable of hurting them in last week's first leg at Pittodrie.
Jimmy Thelin's men still face a difficult task at the National Arena tonight - but recent history suggests there is reason to believe.
A couple of seasons ago, when Aberdeen were last on the European stage, they were written off by many.
Despite that, they gave a very good account of themselves - I watched as they delivered impressive displays - both home and away - against Eintracht Frankfurt, PAOK and HJK Helsinki.
A number of members of that squad remain. In fact two of them - Dante Polvara and Ester Sokler, who found the net in some of the above mentioned games, got the goals as Aberdeen fought back from two down for a draw against FCSB last week.
If the Dons use that recent big-game experience on the continental stage and deliver a similar performance, can they upset the odds again?
Skipper Shinnie eyes another career highpublished at 21:08 BST 27 August
21:08 BST 27 August
Tyrone Smith BBC Sport Scotland Senior Reporter in Bucharest
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Cup-winning captain Graeme Shinnie says it would be "another massive moment in my career" if he can lead Aberdeen to Europa League qualification.
The Dons face Romanian champions FCSB in the second leg of their play-off in Bucharest on Thursday after last week's dramatic 2-2 draw at Pittodrie.
Shinnie, who has six Scotland caps, skippered his home-town team to Scottish Cup success last season on his 300th Dons appearance, 10 years after leading Inverness to glory in the same tournament.
"I am getting on a bit now, I am still involved in these big games and I have still got opportunities to continue to achieve things in my career," said the 34-year-old.
"If I could drive the team on to qualify for the Europa League, it would be another massive moment in my career.
"When you come away from home in Europe it is always tough. You know you need to work as hard as you can, give everything. The crowd will be behind them, a beautiful, big stadium, so the atmosphere will be electric.
"It is these types of games in football if you do win them then you will remember them after your career, they are great moments."
With his team 2-0 down, Shinnie came on midway through the second half in the first leg and had a big part to play in turning the tie around.
The Aberdonian believes they can go on and get the job done in the Romanian capital, where the winners will progress to the Europa League and the losers drop down to the Conference League.
"There is strong belief, you have to have belief or there is no point in playing in the game," added Shinnie.
"We go into every game thinking we are going to win and we have the belief that we are going to win.
"It was a good first game at Pittodrie, pretty even. We made a couple of mistakes, gave away a couple of goals, the character in the squad was good to bring it back so it is all in the balance, it has the makings to be another good game."
Thelin on learning lessons, belief & FCSB owner's commentspublished at 17:42 BST 27 August
17:42 BST 27 August
Tyrone Smith BBC Sport Scotland Senior Reporter in Bucharest
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Aberdeen manager Jimmy Thelin has been speaking to the media before Thursday's Europa League play-off second leg with FCSB.
Here are the key lines:
Thelin says his team have "learned from the last game" and hopes "we can do better tomorrow" after last week's 2-2 draw against 10-man FCSB.
The Dons boss adds: "Both teams know what is on the line".
When asked if he can read into FCSB's poor domestic form, Thelin says: "The league is one thing... this is a different kind of game".
The Swede says Aberdeen "are really prepared and ready for this game", adding "the most important thing is our team spirit".
On choosing to have the weekend off to prepare for the game, Thelin believes "for us it was good because we had some players with small issues and they got some extra time to prepare themselves".
Thelin was asked if he has found the outspoken comments from FCSB owner Gigi Becali arrogant, but he didn't get drawn on the subject: "He believes in his team, in his club, and that is fine with me. We believe in ourselves, our club and our players".
Will Polvara be trusted to start in Bucharest?published at 12:50 BST 27 August
12:50 BST 27 August
Liam McLeod BBC Sport Scotland Commentator
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A dramatic night at Pittodrie saw Aberdeen rescue a draw against Romanian champions FCSB to keep their Europa League dream alive ahead of tomorrow's play-off second leg in Bucharest.
Once again, weak defending and mistakes left what was a youthful Dons side in an almighty hole at 2-0 down before Jimmy Thelin's substitutes ensured they still have a chance of progression.
The headline-maker was Dante Polvara, a player the supporters have been desperate to see more of in the Swede's starting XI. But Ester Sokler, Leighton Clarkson and captain Graeme Shinnie also played their part in at least cancelling out the damage done although the fact Aberdeen were playing 10 men for 50 minutes also played into their hands. Will all four start this time?
Polvara's opportunities to impress Thelin were hit early last season when he picked up a hamstring injury in training that sidelined him until December, but he was superb last Thursday and could be a big player for the Dons this season if he's allowed off the leash.
Thelin's preference tends to be to start Sivert Heltne Nilsen, his lieutenant at previous club Elfsborg, but the veteran Norwegian doesn't offer the same drive or threat that Clarkson and Polvara do though it remains to be seen if that is how Thelin will read it when he names his team for the second leg.
When they played in the Conference League two seasons ago, Aberdeen produced some encouraging displays in their away games at Eintracht Frankfurt and PAOK.
And they are coming up against an FCSB side that have made a spluttering start to their season having been knocked out of the Champions League qualifiers while embarking on a poor start to their Romanian title defence.
On Sunday, they lost 2-0 at home to Aberdeen's former Uefa Cup opponents Arges Pitesti, who the Dons faced the last time they were in Romania in 1981, with outspoken owner Gigi Becali once again unable to resist criticising the display in the media.
They left out star man Daniel Birligea, who scored and set the other one up at Pittodrie, and have now won just one of their seven league games and two out of 10 overall, the two legs against Kosovan minnows Drita in the last round.
A place in the Europa League would give the Dons a massive boost, do they have it in them and will their American from the Big Apple be trusted to provide it?
Keskinen 'really confident' Dons can make Europa Leaguepublished at 16:46 BST 26 August
16:46 BST 26 August
Tyrone Smith BBC Sport Scotland Senior Reporter
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'Europa League only thought for Aberdeen' - Keskinen
Winger Topi Keskinen says Aberdeen are "really confident" they can see off FCSB in Bucharest on Thursday and secure Europa League qualification.
The play-off tie is finely poised after the Dons came back from two goals down to draw 2-2 with the Romanian champions at Pittodrie.
"We got a draw from 2-0 down, which is quite good, but we were in control of the game and we were the better side," Finland international Keskinen told BBC Scotland.
"We deserved to win, we didn't get the win, but we are really confident for the game.
"We are going to play for the win. After the first game, I don't see why it is not possible. I think we played really well, it is just a few moments where we were not 100% they scored two goals."
For all that was good about the way Aberdeen played in the first leg, two defensive lapses led to the two FCSB goals.
"Usually in these European games and in the league as well, when the level gets better and you are sloppy in some situations and you give them a chance, they are going to punish you," added Keskinen.
"That is what happens so we just need to be ready for those moments in the game on Thursday."
The 22-year-old, who helped Aberdeen to Scottish Cup success in his debut season after moving from HJK Helsinki, is relishing the European journey with the Dons, having lined up against them for his previous club in the Conference League a couple of seasons ago.
"All these European games, they are a bit special," he added.
"I saw when I played in Helsinki the Aberdeen fans that were there. There were loads of them, thousands of them, chucking snowballs at our keeper, and you could see they have their passion for European games, they obviously have it for the league as well, but European nights are a bit special."
Dons set for two season-defining gamespublished at 10:52 BST 26 August
10:52 BST 26 August
Glen Schreuder Fan writer
Aberdeen showed great character to haul themselves off the canvas and we have given ourselves a great chance of qualifying for the Europa League proper.
No matter how Graeme Shinnie wanted to cover it up, two individual errors gifted FCSB goals, and credit must go to a huge save from Dimitar Mitov as it quite easily have been 3-0.
However, those called off the bench answered Jimmy Thelin's call and Dante Polvara and Ester Sokler rescued the draw.
The former must really wonder what he needs to do to break into the Dons midfield and the latter will hope his late equaliser earns him a start in Thursday's second leg.
This weekend Falkirk visit Pittodrie as we search for our first Premiership points. It feels like two defining games for our season, but with European league-stage football guaranteed, Sunday's fixture carries just as much importance.
'Great comeback' after Aberdeen's 'schoolboy errors'published at 14:22 BST 22 August
14:22 BST 22 August
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Aberdeen hit back to keep Europa League hopes alive
We asked for your views on Aberdeen's 2-2 draw against 10-man FCSB at Pittdorie in the first leg of the Europa League play-off.
Here's what some of you said:
Justin: Great to dig out a result and fair play for the second-half performance but the schoolboy errors can't keep happening, we've got no chance if they do. The crowd was amazing and just shows how much the fans want to do their bit.
Fred: A very good game. I cannot understand why Dante Polvara never starts, he is by far our best player. Great to see the second-half intensity but why was Kusini Yengi signed? We desperately need a new striker. Next week's second leg will be fascinating if the manager gets his starting XI right.
Peter: You can see what Jimmy Thelin is aiming for. The players are working towards it. It's just that final third. 2-0 down should've been avoided but I'll take 2-2 with all to play for next week.
Nik: Hopefully the comeback will spur them on for the next leg. Even with XI I didn't think FCSB were anything special. Thelin really has to get the right starting line-up for next week. His loyalty to certain players is becoming almost farcical now. Get this right, we might have a chance.
Alasdair: At least we are heading to Romania with everything to play for. Very worried as the centre-backs were easily exposed for both goals, needed much tighter marking. We are still lacking convincing firepower up front, shame we didn't make full advantage of the numerical advantage.
Eric: A great comeback, but we can't afford to go two down every match. The real difference here was composure, which they had in abundance, especially up front. Too many times we sent in poor quality high balls into the box. We need that high tempo game from the first minute, a striker, and we can have a good season. Confidence will bring the composure.
Dons have 'everything to play for'published at 12:23 BST 22 August
12:23 BST 22 August
Tyrone Smith BBC Sport Scotland Senior Reporter
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Defender Alexander Jensen says Aberdeen must cut out the mistakes but have "everything to play for" in the second leg of their Europa League play-off with FCSB.
The Romanian champions - who had Juri Cisotti sent off in the first half - capitalised on defensive mistakes to go 2-0 up at Pittodrie through Daniel Birligea and Darius Olaru before the Dons fought back for a draw with goals from substitutes Dante Polvara and Ester Soklert.
It leaves the tie on a knife-edge for the return in Bucharest on Thursday.
"We know it is costly in these games. When you play those kind of teams with a lot of quality, we know we can't do mistakes like that as they will score," said Jensen.
"There is a lot to take with us but also we know we have to stay sharp throughout the whole game to be competitive in these games.
"It was great we kept going and showed great character in the second half to make these two goals, so there is still a game to play next week."
Aberdeen are able to fully focus on the second leg after taking up the option to postpone this weekend's Premiership trip to Dundee United.
Jensen added: "It is good that we can have the week off to focus on that game. We have everything to play for in one week.
"We know it is going to be a tough game there. They are an experienced team in Europe so hopefully we can do it, but it is going to be difficult."
What did the pundits say about Aberdeen's 'huge comeback'?published at 10:18 BST 22 August
10:18 BST 22 August
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Aberdeen hit back to keep Europa League hopes alive
Former Aberdeen defender Willie Miller on BBC Scotland
It is a disappointment because it is only a draw - but there is hope there.
It is still level and Aberdeen have shown what they are capable of. The manager has big questions in terms of his starting line-up, with Dante Polvara in particular and Graeme Shinnie too.
Polvara down the left is such an outball. He's a big, strong unit as well and the goal - he shouldn't really be scoring from that position, facing away from goal. That fires the crowd and players up and gives them the optimism that they can get something out of it, which they did. He made a huge difference.
Ex-Scotland midfielder Michael Stewart on BBC Sportsound
The comeback is huge. There has been a fair bit of money spent but there's been a wee sense of negativity early on this season at Aberdeen.
To come back from 2-0 down helps things move in the right direction and validates what Jimmy Thelin is trying to do. Even though it's not a victory, it feels like and they've got to take that positivity from the comeback into next week.
What does Polvara need to do to start a game? Ante Palaversa and Polvara for me are the two midfielders that should be starting. They've got the physicality, they're athletic, great passing range. For the life of me I don't understand why they don't start most games.
It's been the story of season so far for Aberdeen, the defensive side of things. When you're playing at that level and you make these kind of mistakes, you're going to get punished.
FCSB getting a man sent off was huge for the game because it got Aberdeen back into it. I think they ended up dominating possession.
And a lot of these European teams are really good defensively, but Aberdeen managed to break them down twice. It's going to be very difficult next week when they go over, but it's still alive.
Former Aberdeen striker Billy Dodds on BBC Scotland
Aberdeen will have to defend better in the second leg and not gift the Romanians goals. Both goals conceded were so poor. But it was a really good reaction after that.
Thelin got his tactics against the 10 men spot on when they were 2-0 down.
When they were shifting it and trying to get round the back, they were also able to float a diagonal for Polvara or Ester Sokler with the height advantage.