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Southampton 0-5 Tottenham: Did you know?published at 21:09 15 December 2024
21:09 15 December 2024
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Tottenham scored five goals in the first half of a Premier League match for the first time ever. Their eight shots on target is also their joint-most on record in the opening 45 minutes of a game (since 2003/04).
Son Heung-min provided his 68th Premier League assist for Tottenham, the joint-most of any player for the club in the competition's history (level with Darren Anderton).
Southampton 0-5 Tottenham - send us your thoughtspublished at 20:54 15 December 2024
Sutton's predictions: Southampton v Tottenhampublished at 12:46 15 December 2024
12:46 15 December 2024
Chris Sutton is making predictions for all 380 Premier League games this season, against a variety of guests.
For week 16, he takes on darts star Stephen Bunting, who is a Liverpool fan.
Sutton's prediction: 1-2
This should be a great game of football.
It is one for the purists really, because Southampton will play their defined style under Russell Martin and Ange Postecoglou's Tottenham will definitely do the same.
Both managers have been criticised recently and some of the stuff written and said about Postecoglou, after Spurs lost to Chelsea, was staggering, although it is the same after every defeat.
As I said on the Monday Night Club, on their day, Spurs are the best team to watch in the Premier League, but they are just patchy.
They should get over the line here though, because Southampton have bigger problems.
It looks like Saints are going to get relegated, but I hope they see the bigger picture when it comes to Martin.
For starters, he got them promoted, which wasn't an easy job. Keeping them up was always going to be even harder but, because Southampton have had a pretty recent spell of doing OK in the Premier League, their fans think they should be doing much better.
It was a similar story with Leicester City under Steve Cooper, where expectations were unrealistic. He got the sack but I hope Saints stick with Martin because. with a bit of patience. they could come back stronger.
Bunting's prediction: 0-2
Tottenham have been terrible but Southampton keep losing. I think they are going down, aren't they?
The pros and cons of Championship Manager as a commentatorpublished at 12:31 14 December 2024
12:31 14 December 2024
In the latest episode of our new BBC Sounds podcast, The Commentators' View, BBC Radio 5 Live's Ian Dennis and Conor McNamara discuss how computer games can influence their commentaries.
When Dennis was working at BBC Radio Leeds, popular computer game Championship Manager helped him commentate at a game between Tottenham and Leeds United.
"It was Mark Chapman who got me into Championship Manager/Football Manager when I lived with him in the late 1990s," said Dennis. "I remember doing a game with Norman Hunter when I was at Radio Leeds, and it was Tottenham against Leeds United at White Hart Lane.
"Tottenham needed to try and get a goal late on, and they brought on Gary Doherty, - a big central defender, ginger hair, Irish, but he also had the ability to play up front as well.
"So Norman was saying, 'I don't understand this', but because I'd been playing Championship Manager I could say, 'Well actually...'.
"At that point he was a utility player, he could play both at the back and up front, so I knew he was going to go up front."
Indeed, while the game helped Dennis, fellow commentator revealed the Ireland international was part of the reason he had to "give up playing that game".
"I stopped playing Championship Manager when I started working as a commentator," said McNamara, "because in the game, Gary Doherty could sign for Sunderland and be a really prominent player, and in your head you think, 'he played for Sunderland, he scored loads of goals for Sunderland'.
"That distorted reality! I had to shut that out of my life and concentrate on the actual real world!"
Why Postecoglou was right to criticise Wernerpublished at 16:17 13 December 2024
16:17 13 December 2024
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We asked Tottenham fans for their thoughts on Ange Postecoglou publicly criticising Timo Werner for his first-half performance against Rangers.
And we have been inundated with replies.
Here are some of the comments backing the boss:
Trevor: Werner is one of the highest paid players in the squad - he deserves to be called out for his abject displays. Still gets paid regardless. Not good business, Mr Levy.
Anthony: So Ange has finally discovered what many Spurs fans think, that Werner doesn't warrant a place in the team. He should be expected to put a shift in. My boss would have every right to criticise me in public if I was paid a salary like his.
Mark: Spot on. If Werner - who earns a ridiculous salary - has any integrity, he would hold his hand up and agree, before making amends in his next game, if he ever gets one with Spurs.
Bob: Spot on Ange. I believe a few more of the squad need an "assessment". If they are not prepared to fight for the team, club and fans, they are taking money under false pretences and need to move on.
Mark: Timo has never seemed to give 100 per cent - he just goes through the motions. I would not put him in the starting XI.
Terry: I am surprised it has taken Ange so long to come to this conclusion. Timo has had enough chances and continues to disapoint. Myself and fellow season ticket holders were amazed his loan period was extended for another season. Ange expects high-pressing entertaining football. But Timo is on a downward trend, the option to buy of £8.5m tells you all you need to know.
Why Postecoglou went too far with Werner criticismpublished at 16:15 13 December 2024
16:15 13 December 2024
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And here are some fans who think Postecoglou overstepped with his criticism.
Sean: I don't think it matters anymore what Ange says. It's not working, he says he won't change and he won't be there long.
Tony: Postecoglou has, rightly, previously refrained from publicly shaming his underperforming players - and there have been plenty this season - and doing so now, particularly singling one out when there were others equally bad is unfair and not a good look. We've seen this with Jose Mourinho and Antonio Conte before him and we know where it leads, which doesn't bode well for Postecoglou himself. Unless he publicly apologises for this aberration, he risks losing the dressing room and his job.
David: Rightly or wrongly, once you criticise player in public you are one step away from losing the dressing room. Also, imagine if Werner came out after the game and said that Postecoglou wasn't good enough today. Would he accept that as an assessment or feedback?
Derek: Ange is clearly out of his depth. He doesn't play Maddison enough, is constantly chopping and changing the team and he can't close out a game!
Ben: There's a bit of sophistry going on here. He openly singled out a player in public. That's not really helpful and it's not really Postecoglou's style either to be fair. He was rattled a bit last night and lashed out a bit. Now he doesn't want to take it back because of how he thinks it would look.
Daniel: Publicly criticising Werner after specifically saying he would never criticise a player publicly two days ago after Cristian Romero criticised the board! This seems like more than a coincidence and like a manager clutching at straws because he's under heavy pressure.
Postecoglou's public Werner criticism is SOS for Spurspublished at 13:49 13 December 2024
13:49 13 December 2024
Nizaar Kinsella BBC Sport football news reporter
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Ange Postecoglou made headlines when criticising Timo Werner after the 1-1 draw with Rangers in the Europa League - but he explained it was part of a wider message.
The Australian manager kept repeating that he needs all his fit players to "fight" in a week that could "set up our season".
There is no doubt that the conversation around Spurs is currently negative but the season can be salvaged. Even despite criticism of the performance at Ibrox, qualification for the knockout stage of the Europa League still looks likely.
Hit by an injury crisis, including the loss of key players Guglielmo Vicario, Cristian Romero and Micky van de Ven, it is now incumbent on the remaining players to keep the season alive in the Premier League and Carabao Cup.
Spurs are 11th in the Premier League but face bottom-of-the-league Southampton on Sunday.
What follows is a match at home to Manchester United in the Carabao Cup quarter-final before Liverpool visit the following Sunday in the league.
Germany international Werner felt the full force of Postecoglou's criticism this week but he insists other players have fallen short, a category that does not include exceptional and versatile 18-year-old Archie Gray, or increasingly his star man Dejan Kulusevski.
Amid criticism and what he labelled an "injury crisis" given he has just one fit centre-back available, Postecoglou has laid down the challenge for his remaining players to keep the season alive.
What did you make of Postecoglou's criticism?
Is he right to call out underperforming players? Or did he go too far?
Postecoglou on Werner, Gray and Southamptonpublished at 13:03 13 December 2024
13:03 13 December 2024
Phil Cartwright BBC Sport journalist
Tottenham boss Ange Postecoglou has been speaking to the media before Sunday's Premier League game against Southampton (kick-off 19:00 GMT).
Here are the key lines from his news conference:
Postecoglou was asked if he had "any regrets about the public nature" of his comments about Timo Werner's performance at Rangers on Thursday: "It wasn't criticism - it was an assessment of his performance. On a really challenging night for us, which we knew going into it, he needs to be better."
Asked about Werner's response, Postecoglou said: "I've got no time for that sort of stuff any more. Collectively, we're in a fight here. I'm not going to go around worrying about people's bruised egos. This football club wants to achieve things and be successful."
He continued: "We're down to the bare bones in players. If there's somebody in that dressing room who is fit and able to contribute that feels like he needs something extra at this moment, he's probably not the right type. I need guys, and we had some last night who understand the situation we're in. We've got 15 fit players, so I'm not going to go around trying to get extra out of people. If they don't give extra right now, it kind of gives me an indication of where they're at."
Later in the news conference, Postecoglou said: "I get that everything's about Timo, but Timo's not where our season is at. It's not about Timo - it's about who we are and the situation we're in right now. If somebody else doesn't perform to their levels in the situation we're in, we're going to suffer for it because we've only got a certain amount of players."
He added: "It's not about bringing somebody down or blaming someone. We've got a limited amount of players, we're really stretched, we've got big games that can set up our season and it's a great challenge. I want people who are up for that challenge and relishing the opportunity to be out there. This is not a time for us to be worried about people's mindset."
Spurs' injury list has created opportunities for youngsters such as Archie Gray to play more regularly. Asked about how that will affect their development, Postecoglou said: "You don't want it by design but it will bear fruit for us. If we'd had a smoother season, they probably wouldn't have played as much. Archie has been asked to play unfamiliar positions and the way he's handling it is outstanding."
On Southampton: "They've played some pretty exciting and effective football against very good teams. I think Russell [Martin] will be frustrated that they haven't been able to sustain it or get rewards for it. The good stuff you do gets diminished because people invariably look at the outcome, which is fair enough, but I think some of the football they've played has been as good as anyone this year."
'Be accountable and move on' - Bassong on Postecoglou's Werner criticismpublished at 11:42 13 December 2024
11:42 13 December 2024
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Former Tottenham defender Sebastien Bassong agrees with Ange Postecoglou's singling out winger Timo Werner, after the attacker was substituted at half-time in Spurs' 1-1 draw at Rangers on Thursday.
After the game, Postecoglou said Werner's first-half performance was "unacceptable". Speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live, Bassong backed up the Spurs manager's approach.
"I agree with him," he said. "I know we are in football and sometimes a manager is supposed to protect their players. But when you are a senior player you will be held accountable.
"Timo Werner can take it and it should trigger him to get better.
"When you are in that situation you cannot hide and have to take responsibility. That performance was not at the level it should be. Take responsibility, be accountable and move on."
Sections of the Tottenham fanbase are becoming frustrated with Postecoglou, after mixed results in recent weeks.
Bassong says the club "knew what they were getting" with the Australian, and hopes everything can still click for his former club.
"When Tottenham took Ange Postecoglou they knew what they were getting," he added. "They were getting a man who has a DNA in the way he wants to play. Some people would say he is a bit stubborn but he knows what he is trying to do.
"He is trying to bring silverware into Tottenham. It has been difficult. You can't blame injuries.
"They have to stick together and show resilience."
Southampton v Tottenham: Did you know?published at 11:32 13 December 2024
11:32 13 December 2024
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Tottenham captain Son Heung-min has scored more goals (10) against Southampton than he has any other Premier League opponent.
In their first 11 Premier League games this season, Tottenham faced an average of just 9.6 shots and 3.4 shots on target per game. In their past four, they've faced 18.8 shots and 6.8 shots on target per game.
'Inept', 'lamentable' but 'still a point'published at 09:12 13 December 2024
Graham: Unfortunately another inept performance, from start to finish. Too many players were lazy on and off the ball we have seen this too often this season. They can't even motivate themselves in a must-win game. We are going backwards again. Something must change please.
Steven: Spurs were lamentable but they still secured a point against an improving Rangers side, with a hostile atmosphere. A win here would not have eased any pressure on Ange, but anything but a win against Southampton will surely increase it.
Phil: You can put it down to the hostile atmosphere in the stadium, you can credit the aggression of Rangers, but we have seen similar Spurs displays in far less intimidating venues and even when playing at home. This is because Ange is not up to the job. He is a nice bloke but is tactically inept.
Paolo: This team has sadly become a group of players who don't have the quality or desire required and have thrown in the towel, which also looks like what the manager has done. Yes, Daniel Levy is massively to blame but the issues that have plagued Ange's tenure have never been addressed, which leads me to think a change of manager is required. He never seems to acknowledge the issues we have.
George: At the moment, we are stuck. If we swap out our underperforming senior players, all of a sudden we are a youth squad. The likes of Son Heung-min and James Maddison need to step up and bring some energy to the game. For me, all that can get us out of this is the return of our defence and one or two key signings in January.
Murray: Why does the boss persist with Timo Werner? He misses more chances than he gets, as he did at Chelsea. Dejan Kulusevski should be starting every game.
Gossip: Richarlison wants Tottenham staypublished at 07:43 13 December 2024
07:43 13 December 2024
Brazil forward Richarlison will reject an approach from his former club Fluminense, as the 27-year-old looks to prove himself at Tottenham. (TNT Sports Brazil - in Portuguese), external
Meanwhile, Tottenham are monitoring 21-year-old Lens midfielder Andy Diouf. (GiveMeSport), external
Meanwhile, Spurs are considering recalling 19-year-old English defender Ashley Phillips from his loan deal at Stoke City in January, to help ease their injury crisis. (Standard), external
'Spurs arrived like tourists lost in a hostile city'published at 07:41 13 December 2024
07:41 13 December 2024
Tom English BBC Scotland's chief sports writer at Ibrox
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You have to imagine that Ange Postecoglou was in the ears of his Tottenham players all week, telling them the dangers of Ibrox and warning them there was a battle ahead.
For all his dominance as Celtic manager, Postecoglou won only one of four times in this place. He knew. His players? Not a clue.
They arrived like tourists lost in a hostile city.
They gave the impression of a team that expected Rangers to swoon at the feet of a monied Premier League side.
Languid, lethargic, lazy in possession - and ransacked, constantly.
Spurs were nowhere it. They looked weak, soft and unprepared - Rangers looked ready.
Whatever Spurs thought Rangers were going to throw at them, aggression was guaranteed. Quality could not be banked on, but passion and heart absolutely could.
Postecoglou was going potty on the touchline, somehow managing to gesticulate wildly in six different directions at the same time. Ibrox rocked as the visitors toiled.
Paraphrasing and removing the expletives, the general reaction from Rangers fans was: 'Save the showboating for down south, son'.
Dejan Kulusevski was the break-glass–in-case-of-emergency replacement at the break and he delivered. Fraser Forster got them out of jail with his late save from Cyriel Dessers, but Postecoglou's trial goes on.
One win in eight is an uncomfortable case for the defence.
'Everybody needs to do a little more' - Kulusevskipublished at 07:37 13 December 2024
07:37 13 December 2024
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Tottenham goalscorer Dejan Kulusevski spoke to TNT Sports after their draw at Ibrox: "I think Rangers played very well and we struggled a bit. We didn't play well enough to win the game. It's a beautiful stadium and the fans helped them a lot.
"I wanted to change something, to make something happen and I succeeded once, but not enough. It's always important to score but we've got to start winning games now.
"It's time to win on Sunday. Everybody needs to do a little more than we're doing now."
Dejan Kulusevski has scored in back-to-back appearances for Tottenham in all competitions for the very first time.
'Weren't anywhere near our best' - Postecogloupublished at 07:25 13 December 2024
07:25 13 December 2024
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Tottenham head coach Ange Postecoglou on the Europa League draw against Rangers: "A tough game as expected, with the atmosphere in the stadium. I thought the first half was pretty tight with no clear-cut chances for either side.
"When they score straight after half-time, the energy levels obviously go up and it's going to be a tough one to claw back, but I thought we worked our way back in well.
"I thought the substitutes made a difference and we scored a good goal. We had other good moments and it was a great save by Fraser [Forster] at the end.
"In the context of where we are in Europe, it is an important point.
"We weren't anywhere near our best, which I think is fair to say, and at the same time, we're in a period of games where we're grinding through at the moment.
"Obviously [we are playing] with a fairly depleted squad. So, in the context of that, in the end, I think it was a good outcome for us."
On Timo Werner, who was taken off at half-time: "He wasn't playing anywhere near the level he should.
"When you've got 18-year-olds, it's not acceptable to me.
"I said that to Timo he's a German international. In the moment we're in right now - it's not like we've got many options, I need everyone to at least be going out there and trying to give the best of themselves.
"His performance in the first half wasn't acceptable. We need everybody, including him, to be contributing because we don't have the depth to leave people out if they perform poorly.
"I expect a level of performance from some of the senior guys, and tonight wasn't that."