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Liverpool 2-1 Chelsea
What happened?
In the second half at Anfield, Chelsea striker Nicolas Jackson scored an equalising goal before it was quickly ruled out for being offside.
However, the decision was overturned by video assistant referee Michael Oliver, with Jackson being played onside by Liverpool's Ibrahima Konate.
What's the law?
As per IFAB law, a player is in an offside position if:
What was said?
"There was a few decisions that we felt didn't go for us, but we stepped up," said Liverpool boss Arne Slot.
Phil McNulty Q&A
Anonymous: Why were Chelsea not awarded a penalty in the first half for Trent Alexander-Arnold’s’ stamp on Jadon Sancho? Overall, Liverpool deserved the win and will be battling for the title, but as usual at Anfield big decisions went the way of the home team. Chelsea still have a lot of improving to do and will be in a six-team battle for fourth place.
Phil: I had a good look at this on “Match Of The Day 2” and I’m not convinced there was enough in that to give a penalty. It looked like a tangle as the two players challenged for possession.
I actually thought Chelsea looked like a team that was really improving. They need, in my opinion, a better goalkeeper and a reliable striker and they will be a real threat. I can see them challenging for the top four.
Liverpool 2-1 Chelsea
What happened?
In the first half at Anfield, Chelsea centre-back Tosin Adarabioyo was shown a yellow card for bringing down Portuguese forward Diogo Jota on the halfway line.
After a quick conversation with video assistant referee Michael Oliver, referee John Brooks stuck with his original decision of a yellow card.
What's the law?
IFAB states that it is a red card offence when "denying a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent whose overall movement is towards the offender’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick."
What was said?
While the decision had no bearing on the game's outcome, it has led to frustration from some Arsenal fans due to its similarities with William Saliba's red card. However, with Chelsea defenders Reece James and Levi Colwill also close by, they were deemed to be providing enough cover for it to not be an "obvious goal-scoring opportunity".
Phil McNulty Q&A
Vicky: Hello, Phil. What are you thoughts on how Sean Dyche has turned things around at Everton and do you think he will be manager when they go into their new stadium next season?
Phil: Morning, Vicky. I think Sean Dyche has done well to get Everton into a four-match unbeaten run in the Premier League, with a couple of important wins at home to Crystal Palace then away at Ipswich Town on Saturday.
He has made them more difficult to score against in recent weeks, a Dyche trademark, while Iliman Ndiaye is a real talent and gives them an “X Factor”.
As for next season, my guess is that Sean Dyche will not be manager, simply because history tells us new owners – and American billionaire Dan Friedkin is fully expected to complete his takeover – usually want their own manager in charge and the fact Dyche’s contract also ends at the conclusion of this season provides a natural breaking point.
If Dyche keeps Everton up, and I think he will, then he deserves a lot of respect for what he has achieved at Goodison Park.
Tottenham 4-1 West Ham
What happened?
West Ham winger Mohammed Kudus was shown a late red card by referee Andy Madley, following guidance from video assistant referee Chris Kavanagh.
After a 50/50 with Tottenham's Micky van de Ven, Kudus shoved Van de Ven, Richarlison and Pape Matar Sarr.
What's the law?
Having initially been brandished a yellow card, it was upgraded to a red, with the shove on Sarr deemed "violent conduct", deemed a red card offence by IFAB.
What was said?
On Kudus, West Ham boss Julen Lopetegui said: "For sure, he is going to be aware that he can improve in this moment because this is not good for him, the club and the team."
Arsenal v Shakhtar Donetsk (Tues, 20:00 BST)
While we wait for the Arsenal training stream to start, let's see a bit more of what manager Mikel Arteta had to say on the fitness of his players.
This is Arteta on Ukraine defender OleksandrZinchenko: "Hopefully a big one [role to play]. We need him fit. Hopefully he is now fit and we can start to use him, play in the team in the manner he can, which is really powerful. That is what we are hoping."
Southampton 2-3 Leicester
What happened?
Shortly after Jordan Ayew came on as a second half substitute for Leicester, he grabbed the shirt of Southampton forward Paul Onuachu at a corner when trying to attack the set-piece.
The decision was not looked at by the referee or stopped by the video assistant referee.
At the time, the score was 2-1 to Southampton and shortly afterwards Saints winger Ryan Fraser was shown a straight red card for a shirt pull himself. Leicester went on to win the match 3-2.
What's the law?
IFAB states that shirt pulls are penalised if deemed strong enough to be classed as holding.
What was said?
Former England striker Alan Shearer called the decision not to give a penalty "poor" on BBC's Match of the Day.
"Look at how long Ayew has got hold of his shirt for, that's about five seconds. He has to be impacting play and there has to be a consequence because he's got hold of him.
"[Onuachu] is trying to get on the end of that and trying to get there before the goalkeeper. I think that's a really poor decision from both the referee and VAR."
Arsenal v Shakhtar Donetsk (Tue, 20:00 BST)
We heard from Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta earlier as he previewed the Gunners' Champions League match at home to Shakhtar Donetsk.
There were a number of questions about the fitness of his players, such as England winger Bukayo Saka, to which he answered "we will know more after training".
Well, Arsenal fans, if you want to know more then click on the play icon at the top of this page to watch today's training session.
Southampton 2-3 Leicester City
What happened?
During the second half, after guidance from VAR official Alex Chilowicz, Anthony Taylor awarded Leicester City a penalty and sent off Southampton's Ryan Fraser for pulling Jamie Vardy's shirt when he had a chance to make it 2-2 from a yard out.
What's the law?
The IFAB says: "Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball or a challenge for the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.), the offending player must be sent off."
What was said?
Southampton boss Russell Martin said: "I think the sending off changes the game. We started the game so well, the second half so well, their goal came out of nothing. Then Ryan gets sent off and the game becomes really difficult."
There were so many VAR decisions made - or not made - over the weekend, we have looked into some of them for you in more detail...
Phil McNulty Q&A
Paul: We used to say it was hard for refs to make quick, snap decisions. Now, driven by technology, there are more technical laws that demand greater micro analysis. Do you think, with more to consider, there is too much time pressure on VAR officials, and should we be simplifying laws?
Phil: Hello, Paul. I have contrasting views on this. I wouldn’t want officials to be put under pressure to make decisions but I also feel if they cannot spot an infringement in, say, 90 seconds, then the original decision should stand. Not sure about changing the laws, but I do feel there should be some sort of time limit on how long it takes to spot any infringement.
Liverpool 2-1 Chelsea
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I think sometimes he can be a liability for Chelsea in my opinion.
He's a top, top shot-stopper but I think there are too many mistakes in him and lapses in concentration at times.
One of the weaknesses of this Chelsea side is sometimes when they do try and play out from the back, they leave themselves vulnerable. A well-organised team that presses well with players that are comfortable in one-on-one situations can catch them off guard at times, but for me I do feel they need to improve in the goalkeeping area still if we're to talk about them winning Premier League titles.
Phil McNulty Q&A
Joey: Chelsea fan here. It’s refreshing to see the team performing better than last season, but where do you think there is still room for improvement?
Phil: Totally agree with you. I watched a Chelsea team at Liverpool yesterday that I think are really on the right road.
Improvements? I think they need a better goalkeeper. Robert Sanchez is too vulnerable and he surely had to be more committed in the challenge on Curtis Jones when he scored Liverpool’s winner.
It would also help if a reliable goalscorer emerged, although there is no doubt Nicolas Jackson is improving.
I like what Enzo Maresca is doing, though, and I really fancy them to challenge for the top four on the evidence of what I’ve seen.
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As a Liverpool fan, I've said it for years. Klopp would've won more with a dash of Benetiz's pragmatism in certain games. What Slot needs, and it'll come, is a dash of Klopp's elan.
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Phil McNulty Q&A
Tom: Phil - given Curtis Jones' top-quality midfield performance for Liverpool yesterday, it would be very harsh to drop him for the big games right now. Would the best solution be to play him alongside Gravenberch and move Mac Allister further forward? The Argentine has been under-utilised in that position and, for me, is just ahead of Szoboszlai in the pecking order at the moment. A nice problem to have, however!
Phil: Hi, Tom. Curtis Jones was the best player on the pitch yesterday, so you can do no more than that. As you say, a very nice problem for Arne Slot to solve and you do mention a very good potential solution there.
What is not in doubt is that if Curtis Jones keeps playing like he did against Chelsea it will be very difficult for Slot to leave him out.
Phil McNulty Q&A
Glenn: Good morning Phil, I’ve noticed there has been little or no mention of the chances of Aston Villa being contenders for the Premier League this season. Already it’s being labelled as a three-horse race. If not Aston Villa, is there any other team you think has an outside chance of upsetting the apple cart?
Phil: Hello, Glenn. Speaking as someone who picked Aston Villa to finish fourth in my pre-season predictions, they have not surprised me at all.
I do think it will be between Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool but I think Villa will have another really good season. Do I see them as title contenders? To be brutally honest, no. Top four? Well I’ve said it and I stick by it.
Phil McNulty Q&A
Anders: Hi Phil, how safe do you feel Eddie Howe's job is at Newcastle? They didn't push on from an impressive 2022-23 last season (not qualifying for Europe) and haven't got off to the best of starts this season. With the rich, demanding owners and them almost three years into the project now, I'm surprised more hasn't been made of Howe's position.
Phil: Hello, Anders. Well, unless something remarkable and unforeseen happens I would say 100% safe.
I don’t think anyone could have done any better and I think he has been somewhat let down by Newcastle’s recruitment strategy.
They spent all summer focusing on a deal for Crystal Palace’s England defender Marc Guehi, which they eventually failed to do, while taking their eye off the ball for a reliable understudy to striker Alexander Isak and more creation on the right flank.
Isak then, almost inevitably, gets injured and the flaws are exposed.
Howe, though, should be safe as houses.
Newcastle 0-1 Brighton
We asked Newcastle fans for their views on Saturday's defeat at home to Brighton.
Here is a selection of their views:
Ward: Unfortunately we lacked a cutting edge and the guile needed to unlock a resolute defence. Our set pieces and corners are disappointing with little variation or creativity. This is important with the amount of box pressure we can generate.
Mike: It was very similar to the Everton game - we dominated but couldn't find the net. Again, we created good chances against a resolute Brighton team and again we couldn't finish. It's so frustrating to watch, as long as we work hard and believe, goals will eventually come.
Tom: Probably one of the most one-sided first halves I have ever seen at St James Park. Newcastle should have been at least a couple ahead by half-time. Newcastle's luck summed up with the Isak shot that hit Murphy. Shooting practice in training this week might be helpful. Right winger and a forward who can score goals are urgently required in the January sales.
Phil McNulty Q&A
Michael: Feels like a strange thing to say, but Saturday was probably Newcastle’s best performance in every part of the game except scoring. Do you think it is just a matter of getting the strikers firing to start pushing on?
Phil: Hi, Michael. I think Saturday demonstrated just how important Alexander Isak is to Newcastle United. He is clearly still rusty after injury but he is a class act and once he is firing then their chances of moving up the table will increase greatly.
The big problem was Newcastle left themselves hostages to fortune by not signing a striker in the summer, leaving the potential problem of an Isak injury, which then happened. They cannot rely on Callum Wilson as an understudy because he spends too much time on the treatment table.
Position | Team | Played | Won | Drawn | Lost | Goals For | Goals Against | Goal Difference | Points | Form, Last 6 games, Oldest first |
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1 | 8 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 15 | 3 | 12 | 21 |
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2 | 8 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 19 | 9 | 10 | 20 |
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3 | 8 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 15 | 8 | 7 | 17 |
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4 | 8 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 15 | 10 | 5 | 17 |
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5 | 8 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 14 | 10 | 4 | 15 |
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6 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 17 | 10 | 7 | 14 |
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7 | 8 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 13 |
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8 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 8 | 6 | 2 | 13 |
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9 | 8 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 | 8 | 0 | 12 |
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10 | 8 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 11 | 11 | 0 | 11 |
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11 | 8 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 10 | 10 | 0 | 11 |
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12 | 8 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 7 | 9 | -2 | 11 |
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13 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 14 | 15 | -1 | 10 |
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14 | 8 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 12 | 14 | -2 | 9 |
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15 | 8 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 11 | 15 | -4 | 8 |
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16 | 8 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 9 | 15 | -6 | 8 |
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17 | 8 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 16 | -10 | 4 |
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18 | 8 | 0 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 11 | -6 | 3 |
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19 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 7 | 6 | 18 | -12 | 1 |
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20 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 7 | 10 | 23 | -13 | 1 |
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Last Updated 21st October 2024 at 21:55
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