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'Not a red card' - Erik ten Hag on Bruno Fernandes after United lose 3-0 to Tottenham

  1. 'We need some time' - Ten Hagpublished at 09:20 British Summer Time

    Man Utd 0-3 Tottenham

    Erik ten HagImage source, Getty Images

    Erik ten Hag has dominated the back pages this morning with quotes from a question asking the United boss whether the team would be better with a different manager.

    Commenting first that he was "not thinking about that", he then added: "We made the decision to stay together as ownership and a leadership group in the summer. We made the decision from after a clear review what we have to improve as an organisation and how we want to construct a squad.

    "We knew it would take some time because of how the window went. Some players were late in like [Manuel] Ugarte. We still have some injuries. We will get better. We need some time.

    "We are all one page together, the ownership, the leadership group, the staff and the players’ group as well. I don’t have that concern."

    In the cutthroat world of football, needing "some time" when a decent chunk of money has already been spent is usually a recipe for your P45. So, realistically, how long can Ten Hag hang on to his role at Old Trafford?

    Hit the left thumb if you think the United hierarchy will stick it out and keep Ten Hag until the end of the season.

    Or click the right thumb if you feel the Dutchman might be gone by the end of October.

    One extreme to the other.

  2. 'Not seeing great characters when it matters'published at 09:15 British Summer Time

    Nigel Reo-Coker
    Former West Ham midfielder on the Football Daily podcast

    I was thinking to myself, what can be said about Manchester United that hasn't already been said?' There is no identity, there isn't any culture, there is everything that does not represent what Manchester United once was as a football club. That is the scary part of it.

    I don't see any leaders on the pitch for them, I don't see representation of what it means to where that shirt. It seems we keep saying the same thing again an again.

    There is only one outcome left really and it has to be change. Something really needs to change at the club and the performances. It's funny, Erik ten Hag says his players are great characters, how are we not seeing these great characters when it matters when they put on the shirt and go and represent Manchester United on the football pitch?

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    Get Involved - What's next for Ten Hag?published at 09:09 British Summer Time

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    The problem with Man U has been deeper than who the manager or coaches are for years. The players whomever they seem to sign don't give 100% consistently. It has been the same since Ferguson left and the next sacking won't change that. There is something fundamentally wrong at the club and it seems no one has the answer as to what or why that may be.

    J, Oxford

  4. Man Utd in the firing linepublished at 09:03 British Summer Time

    Man Utd 0-3 Tottenham

    Simon Stone
    BBC Sport's chief football news reporter

    I call this ‘tin hat time’.

    Manchester United suffer a bad (really bad) result, everyone has an opinion (negative) and the club finds itself under siege. It’s time to put on the tin hats and ignore the noise.

    What do they do?

    I am not getting any sense there will be a knee-jerk reaction. United want to portray a sense of calm.

    But clearly Thursday’s trip to Porto and Sunday’s Premier League match at Aston Villa offer both an opportunity to reset and a chance a rubbish situation could get even worse.

    This is an old and familiar situation at Old Trafford. But the people in charge are new. This is their first big test since concluding Erik ten Hag was the right man to stay in charge.

    Leadership starts at the top. This is the point at which actions speak louder than words.

  5. 'Postecoglou’s Spurs made of sterner stuff'published at 08:57 British Summer Time

    Man Utd 0-3 Tottenham

    John Murray
    Commentator on BBC Radio 5 Live

    Ange PostecoglouImage source, Getty Images

    It was an early season mid-table match but it was loaded with pressure.

    But while Manchester United crumbled, Tottenham rose to the occasion. And in a classic case of Ange Postecoglou sticking to his principles, Maddison and Kulusevski, caused problem after problem for Manchester United which helped to force the home errors.

    Legend has it that in Sir Alex Ferguson’s time he would motivate his team for matches against Spurs by simply saying ‘lads, it’s Tottenham…’

    Postecoglou’s Tottenham are made of sterner stuff.

  6. 'Disgusting and disgraceful' - pundits on 'rock bottom' Man Utdpublished at 08:51 British Summer Time

    Man Utd 0-3 Tottenham

    Disgusting and disgraceful.

    Embarrassing and rock bottom.

    That's the type of performance which gets the manager the sack.

    Qarabag gave Spurs a better game.

    The pundits did not hold back when handing out criticism for Manchester United's lacklustre performance on Sunday, with very little positives pulled from the wreckage of a consecutive Premier League defeat.

    Harry Poole reflects on United's post-mortem here

  7. Phil McNulty Q&A - send us your questionspublished at 08:46 British Summer Time

    Phil McNulty is primed and ready to answer any questions you may have after the weekend's fixtures.

    The title race, relegation fight, high defensive lines, playing out from the back, who'll still have a job by Christmas. Whatever is on your mind, Phil is here to hopefully give you the answer.

    Send us your questions via the usual channels and we'll put Phil to work around 10am.

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  8. 'Certain owners can't let people do things'published at 08:40 British Summer Time

    Man Utd 0-3 Tottenham

    Michael Brown
    Former Manchester City and Tottenham midfielder on BBC Radio 5 Live

    We all got excited by the takeover, the group that were involved, the progression of director of football and new chief executives from experience and walks of life. But they also have to be allowed to do their job. Right throughout the company and football club, they have got to be able to do that.

    Certain owners can't let people do things, they have to control everything. If that happens in this football club like it has been for some time they are not going to be able to take it forward, even under a new tenure. It has to be given to the specialist roles and I haven't really seen that in this moment in time.

  9. Southgate for Man Utd?published at 08:36 British Summer Time

    Gareth SouthgateImage source, Getty Images

    Chopper Reed, excellent name, but some might say controversial opinion?

    Former England boss Gareth Southgate's name is in the mix to replace Erik ten Hag, should the axe fall on the Dutchman.

    The other favourites along with Southgate to be linked with the role are current United assistant manager Ruud Van Nistelrooy and ex-Chelsea and Bayern Munich boss Thomas Tuchel.

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    Get Involved - What's next for Ten Hag?published at 08:28 British Summer Time

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    Man Utd need a manager who will overhaul the club from top to bottom. Not bandaid positions on the pitch. They need Gareth Southgate. Look what he did for England. A shambles after the Iceland game and turn England into one of the world's best national teams.

    Chopper Reed, Sydney Australia

  11. 'This felt like the end for Ten Hag - if not now, very soon'published at 08:23 British Summer Time

    Man Utd 0-3 Tottenham

    Phil McNulty
    BBC Sport chief football writer

    Erik ten HagImage source, Getty Images

    Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag wore the haunted, hunted expression of someone reaching the end of the road after Tottenham Hotspur inflicted abject embarrassment at Old Trafford.

    Since United co-owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe and the club's restructured hierarchy eventually chose to keep faith with Ten Hag in the summer, he has been placed in a position where he is only one bad defeat away from a crisis and unforgiving scrutiny.

    By that measure, the 54-year-old is running out of time after a United performance that was as shambolic, incompetent and indisciplined as any he has presided over in his tenure.

    Winning the EFL Cup 18 months ago and last season's dramatic FA Cup final victory against Manchester City, which effectively kept Ten Hag in a job, have been the highs among many lows – but it does not get much lower than this.

    Read Phil's full story here

  12. 'Clock must be ticking for Ten Hag'published at 08:17 British Summer Time

    John Murray
    Commentator on BBC Radio 5 Live

    Well that went spectacularly badly for Manchester United. And it is impossible to conclude anything other than that the clock must be ticking loudly for Erik ten Hag.

    Last season the United manager had a case when he frequently highlighted his lengthy list of injuries. But around £200m was spent on new recruits in the summer, and it’s now in the region of £600m in total on signings under Ten Hag.

    The team that started against Tottenham was close to, if not actually, the strongest he has at his disposal. His coaching staff has been radically overhauled too, since the end of last season.

    Ten Hag again talked of how it still all needs time, but the thousands who left Old Trafford early must have been contemplating or debating whether the manager’s time is already up.

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    Get Involved - What's next for Ten Hag?published at 08:10 British Summer Time

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    One of the most stark indicators of Ten Hag's inability to motivate his team and get the players playing to their abilities was the FA Cup final. They can play when it's Wembley, against their closest rivals with a winners medal at stake. So they can play. Just not week in week out for Ten Hag.

    Martin, Derby

    Every game that ETH is in charge of MUFC, the gap to the top 4 widens.

    Rob, Manchester

  14. Postecoglou revels in show of powerpublished at 08:05 British Summer Time

    Man Utd 0-3 Tottenham

    Phil McNulty
    BBC Sport chief football writer

    Dejan Kulusevski scores for TottenhamImage source, Getty Images

    In overwhelming Manchester United for a fourth successive win in all competitions, Tottenham produced a complete performance - their finest since the heady early months of Ange Postecoglou's reign.

    It was only two weeks ago that Spurs needed a late comeback to beat Coventry City in the Carabao Cup as the first serious questions were being asked about Postecoglou, but this thrilling display, and the manner in which a side they will regard as rivals were so comprehensively dismantled, provided a compelling answer.

    Spurs were full of quality, running and power from the first whistle, the hard-to-please Postecoglou often reduced to holding his head in his hands in anguish, or throwing his hands in the air in frustration, as they carved United open with ease time and again only to somehow fail to build on Johnson's early goal.

    The fear was clear, that Spurs' failure to cash in had left the door ajar for United. Postecoglou need not have worried.

  15. 'Never a red card' - Fernandespublished at 07:58 British Summer Time

    Man United 0-3 Tottenham

    Bruno FernandesImage source, Getty Images

    Was it a harsh sending off? Did Bruno Fernandes slip before making contact with Tottenham midfielder James Maddison? These are questions that are all up for debate for today.

    The Portugal international came out to speak to the media yesterday and gave his thoughts on the dismal.

    "Never a red card - that is my view," Fernandes told Match of the Day.

    I agree that it is a foul. The referee tried to tell me that as he saw it was a clear contact with the studs, no. I didn't touch him with the studs or even the foot, it was my ankle. It is a clear foul.

    "If he wants to give me a yellow because they are going to go on a counter then I agree. But more than that, no. It is not the case."

  16. Spurs beat dismal Man Utdpublished at 07:50 British Summer Time

    Man United 0-3 Tottenham

    Tottenham celebrateImage source, Getty Images

    Getting beaten by three goals, at home, in the pouring rain, when you're already under scrutiny. Sunday was far from relaxing for Erik ten Hag.

    However, let's not take anything away from Ange Postecoglou's Tottenham, who outclassed 10-man Manchester United from the opening moments. And they did it without injured captain Son Heung-min.

    Brennan Johnson gave Spurs a third-minute lead, with Dejan Kulusevski and Dominic Solanke finishing the job in the second half. Postecoglou was delighted with his side's performance, calling it "outstanding".

    While the Australian could revel in Spurs' comfortable victory at Old Trafford, Ten Hag had his head in hands for most of the 90 minutes, particularly when this guy was sent walking just before the break...

  17. Premier League weekend resultspublished at 07:44 British Summer Time

    Saturday lunchtime seems like a lifetime ago, so if you need a recap of the weekend's results - plus a preview of tonight's match at the Vitality Stadium - here's a quick rundown.

    Saturday, 28 September

    Newcastle 1-1 Manchester City

    Arsenal 4-2 Leicester City

    Brentford 1-1 West Ham

    Chelsea 4-2 Brighton

    Everton 2-1 Crystal Palace

    Nottingham Forest 0-1 Fulham

    Wolves 1-2 Liverpool

    Sunday, 30 September

    Ipswich Town 2-2 Aston Villa

    Manchester United 0-3 Tottenham

    Monday, 30 September

    Bournemouth v Southampton

  18. 'I don't fear the sack'published at 07:37 British Summer Time

    The Daily Mail

    According to the Mail, Erik ten Hag doesn't fear getting the sack, but with pundits labelling the showing against Tottenham 'disgusting and disgraceful', is time rapidly running out for the 54-year-old?

    Daily MailImage source, Daily Mail
  19. 'We're all on one page'published at 07:31 British Summer Time

    The Guardian

    Over in the Guardian, Erik ten Hag's post-match quotes are given star billing, with the Dutchman denying any concerns he may be on the chopping block.

    GuardianImage source, Guardian
  20. 'Another day to Ferget'published at 07:25 British Summer Time

    Metro

    Bruno Fernandes gets the headline treatment over in the Metro after his sending off against Spurs yesterday.

    Liam Delap, scorer of Ipswich Town's two goals against Aston Villa, gets his picture in the paper along with Arsenal boss Mikel Arteta and Chelsea star Cole Palmer. Is the 22-year-old the "best player in the Premier League?" We'll discuss that later.

    MetroImage source, metro